Morality is all in your mind.

Daylight63 said:
Let me tell you why I avoid the term "moral relativist". It's because people who like to be as pejorative and insulting as possible to philosophies they don't share take the phrase "moral relativism" to be synonymous with hedonistic balls-to-the-wall rape/murder/torture/sociopathology and will INSIST on suggesting in every single post that that is what I, the atheist, am.

I tend to avoid words that the opposing side have already "poisoned the well" on.

Plus: I suspect by "moral relativist" you don't see yourself in that description but I bet you have moral relativist positions. You just won't cop to them or you'll outright change the entire basis of the discussion to avoid taking ownership of your own positions as stated.



Unless there is no such thing as objective morality at which point you only know subjective morality and you only THINK it is objective.



Yes, by people who use emotionally charged language when they can't argue their point on the merits and need to build strawmen of the opposing side.
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I didn't say there was necessarily anything evil about moral subjectivity.

I'm just asking people who reject objective morality to live out their subjective morality to it's logical conclusion. It's commendable if a moral subjectivist opposes slavery and female genital mutilation. Just be aware that you are merely stating an opinion, you are not erecting a wall dividing absolute right from absolute wrong.
 
Cypress said:
Just be aware that you are merely stating an opinion, you are not erecting a wall dividing absolute right from absolute wrong.
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And this is important for some reason?

When I do a moral "good" I guess I don't need to think it was part of some grand universal cosmic scheme.
 
Diogenes said:
Who decides what constitutes "a moral good"?
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We humans do. Or whatever social animal you are dealing with. Generally those actions which, if taken result in no net negative to the overall safety of the larger social group, are considered neutral to "morally good".

This is why the polar bear killing the cub of another polar bear is not considered "morally bad" even though it is, technically, murder.
 
Daylight63 said:
And this is important for some reason?

When I do a moral "good" I guess I don't need to think it was part of some grand universal cosmic scheme.
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That's why it's curious you were so reticent to align yourself with moral subjectivity. There's nothing inherently evil about it. Moral relativism has a long and respectable philosophical history. It's almost like your conscience was hesitant to claim relativism, and instinctively you knew that the concept of absolute right and wrong is somehow more psychologically appealing
 
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