Most Conservatives Still Believe The Civil War Wasn't Over Slavery

Joey Jojo said:
I understand the libs argument. Here's mine: the VAST majority of men who fought(and died) for the Confederates owned no slaves. So to say they were fighting for something they literally never had is a stretch to say the least.
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. The wealth of the south was predicated on the backs of slaves. They were defending their ability to make money. It is not just the cotton pickers, but sellers, buyers distributors, satellite businesses and more. You did not have to own slaves to fight for the right to own them. It is no stretch. The civil wars was about slavery. Ever hear of the Underground Railroad where slaves were helped escape the south and go north, often to Canada? Civil was was about slavery.
 
Incidentally, Dark Soul, I think you should know the difference between slavery and indentured labour. I'm against both, since you will soon ask, but they are different things.
 
Dark Soul said:
So? The Brits enslaved the Irish.
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What are 'the Brits'? As I point out, you don't know what slavery is, or anything about real history You are discussing a religious war in which Papists had murdered Protestants in large numbers, as you doubtless don't know.
 
Dark Soul said:
George Soros is a billionaire lib that fiances lib causes. He was a teenager during WWII and worked stealing money from Jews. He's every lib's hero.
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he was 14 when WW2 ended. but he did that? hating is your sport, but try to be correct on occasion. Like once.
 
zymurgy said:
further more - it is an argument that the larger lasting impact of that war was about much more then slavery. Every 5-4 decision we see come down from SCOTUS is a remnant of a war that turned a constitution into a bunch of contradictory words that can no longer be agreed on.

Slavery was not going to last much longer regardless, even if the South were allowed to break free. What else was settled was we do not actually believe in the Spirit of 1776 - that was propaganda to get a bunch of people to fight a war for transfer of power
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How many more years would you have been willing to be enslaved? How many more of your relatives would you have been content with seeing raped, murdered, sold off?

I have seen many people make the claim that if we would have just let the southern states keep slaves, it would have died off eventually -- easy to say when you are not the demographic in chains.

Meanwhile those are also the same people who cry "tyranny!!!" and gear up for armed rebellion -- just because some rancher in Nevada didn't want to pay grazing fees
 
iolo said:
What are 'the Brits'? As I point out, you don't know what slavery is, or anything about real history You are discussing a religious war in which Papists had murdered Protestants in large numbers, as you doubtless don't know.
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The English, and the Anglicans started the killing.
 
Nordberg said:
he was 14 when WW2 ended. but he did that? hating is your sport, but try to be correct on occasion. Like once.
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He's admitted to this. Is he such a hero to your lib causes that you aren't interested in his actual philosophy? In a nutshell, it's 'take advantage of every bad situation'.
 
Dark Soul said:
Born many years later than that. Perhaps your hero, George Soros?
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Why do you call Soros a hero? there are very few liberals who know anything about him. He is not lie the Kochs are to the right. He is not trying to run the party. Rightys do that a lot. call a Dem backer a hero or something like that. not fair and very dishonest.
 
Nordberg said:
Why do you call Soros a hero? there are very few liberals who know anything about him. He is not lie the Kochs are to the right. He is not trying to run the party. Rightys do that a lot. call a Dem backer a hero or something like that. not fair and very dishonest.
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Soros founded, or helped to found, the Clinton Foundation. He is working your party like a puppet and you refuse to acknowledge it. Lefties do that a lot; so very dishonest...

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2012/12/21/11975/donor-profile-george-soros

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_projects_supported_by_George_Soros

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237
 
Nordberg said:
Why do you call Soros a hero? there are very few liberals who know anything about him. He is not lie the Kochs are to the right. He is not trying to run the party. Rightys do that a lot. call a Dem backer a hero or something like that. not fair and very dishonest.
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Further study is required. I used to feel the same way, but Soros is the epitome of evil. He does it through NGO's. Non-government organizations.
 
Dark Soul said:
Soros founded, or helped to found, the Clinton Foundation. He is working your party like a puppet and you refuse to acknowledge it. Lefties do that a lot; so very dishonest...

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2012/12/21/11975/donor-profile-george-soros

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_projects_supported_by_George_Soros

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237
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Simply a right wing meme. The clinton Foundation is a highly rated A level charity. If he is part of that, he should be proud. Nearly all those organizations are very respected and not political at all.
 
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