Mourdock Implodes

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I love this on the NY Times front page today:

A Key Subset: Female Voters Still Deciding
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
While female voters tend to favor President Obama, that cannot be said of white women without college degrees, a subset that has become known as waitress moms.

Yeah, nuff said.

 

[evince]

They are the poorer women who work their asses off trying to take care of their kids.

They are lower information voters.


That is not a crime.


Remember folks spend a little time talking to people you do your daily business with and help them become informed.

 

[blackascoal]

 

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They are the poorer women who work their asses off trying to take care of their kids.

They are lower information voters.


That is not a crime.


Remember folks spend a little time talking to people you do your daily business with and help them become informed.

I know I am such an elitist bitch. It's my one fault Desh.

 

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I started by laughing a little but by time I got to the bottom I felt sick in my stomach...AGAIN.

 

[evince]

I know it hurts to think of these women voting to harm themselves and thinking they are helping themselves.


It easy to get pissed off.


They are jsut overwhelmed and underinformed.


divorced women trying to survive on a shitty jobs salary and likely thinking that robmoney would make a good father image for their kids.

 

[blackascoal]

I started by laughing a little but by time I got to the bottom I felt sick in my stomach...AGAIN.

The exact same response that I had.

 

[evince]

Its people putting THEIR religion over your right to control your own body.


the republican party of today is doomed.


More women than men nowadays

more and more latinos

Next to no black people willing to vote for them.


its just a matter of time

 

[apple0154]

I'm not arguing that. I didn't say that. I don't defend/explain the Bible or Christian beliefs, I am not a Christian. I merely stated that many Christian followers believe that whatever happens is God's will, good bad or ugly, it's God's will and part of his plan... that's what they believe as a matter of their religious faith, and that's where he is coming from.

Let's be completely honest, how many actual rapes result in pregnancy? What percentage of abortions is this? Do we have some secret epidemic of this sort of thing that I am unaware of? Because I just don't think it's that big of a deal. I don't agree with his viewpoint, I am not endorsing his viewpoint, but it doesn't have beans to do with the national GOP or Republicans. It doesn't affect policy, it can't and won't ever be made law of the land, and so it simply doesn't matter what his personal viewpoint is. He IS, however, entitled to exercise his religion in America, and this is part of that.

Riiight. Just like PmP stated there was never a law against contraception.

Look at the smoking laws. If someone walked into a bar in 1960 and said in 50 years anyone smoking would be arrested they would have been laughed out of there. The stealth used by the Repubs point to the logical conclusion such is destined to happen. If a fetus or fertilized cell is classified as a human being, which the Repubs are trying to get enacted into law, no one can logically claim it's OK to kill it because of the way it came into existence. Denying abortion in all cases except those that are known to not be viable, such as tubal pregnancies, is the logical end.

As for "it doesn't have beans to do with the national GOP or Republicans" it has everything to do with them. Are people going to go against their deeply held faith/beliefs? It's illogical to assume so. It is logical to believe those people will do all they legally can to implement their beliefs and it starts by claiming that something that is unborn is a human being. That is the diabolical seed from which the rest will grow, like a cancer in all directions. In cases of problem pregnancies the life of women will ultimately be judged against the life of the fetus. Her life will not take priority as the majority of problem pregnancies are a result of a woman's defective body. It is not only illogical but absurd to kill an innocent human being so that a defective one may live. That will be the ultimate outcome if the unborn are classified as human beings.

Remember Tod Akins? It is not just Mourdock who holds perverted opinions concerning abortion. Romney's team still stands behind Mourdock. Does it have to be written on a billboard before you understand or do you already understand but refuse to come out and declare your support for such abhorrent beliefs? I tend to go with the latter but I'll wait to see your answer.

 

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I know it hurts to think of these women voting to harm themselves and thinking they are helping themselves.


It easy to get pissed off.


They are jsut overwhelmed and underinformed.


divorced women trying to survive on a shitty jobs salary and likely thinking that robmoney would make a good father image for their kids.

That's really insightful. I think you are probably right about that.

 

[evince]

underinformed is not a crime.

this country doesnt make it easy to stay informed.

Our media needs to be alot more honest if we want people truely informed.

The whole reason fox exsists is to confuse people on what the truth is.

 

[christiefan915]

Based on this, I know that I will not see libs on this board bashing Man Coulter for using the word retard.

This man took her on and she has yet to respond. I don't expect the dumb slut to apologize though.

"A Special Olympics athlete with Down Syndrome has written an open letter to conservative columnist Ann Coulter, scolding her for using the word "retard" while criticizing President Obama.

The letter by John Franklin Stephens has quickly gained enormous support on the internet, but so far Coulter has not responded.

Stephens decided to write the letter Tuesday after Coulter sent a Twitter message during the presidential debates Monday saying approved of "(Mitt) Romney's decision to be kind and gentle to the retard," referring to Obama.

Coulter also used the word in a Tweet where she said that if Obama is "'the smartest guy in the room' it must be one retarded room.'"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/syndrome-a...oulters-retard/story?id=17553134#.UIlVZqDaFn4

 

[christiefan915]

I am a moderate Republican who will always shoot straight. And that means that I will be the first one to call these 'far Right Wing' Republicans over the top....way over the top. I personally am pro life, but would not try to push tha on others if I was running for elected office. These guys that want all forms of abortion for all reasons outlawed make the whole party look bad. Imagine if the Daughter of one of these guys came home raped by somebody, and they had to have a bastard grandchild.

Bottom line, these guys say some idiotic things for sure, and if they lose because of it, they deserve to lose. But, no matter how hard the Dems try, abortion is NOT going to be what drives the female voters. Overwhelmingly, it will still be things like, jobs, the economy, energy costs, etc. That being said, hard for them to be really fast to jump onto Obama's team.

If you think women voters won't be driven by a threat to abortion rights, let me take you back to 1992 and a PA senate race between Arlen Specter and Stephen Freind.

Republican primary for the United States Senate from Pennsylvania, 1992[SUP][9][/SUP]:

• Arlen Specter (inc.) - 683,118 (65.08%)
• Stephen F. Freind - 366,608 (34.92%)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Freind

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Many christians dont have the right to FORCE their religions tenents ONTO MY BODY

And Mourdock wasn't forcing any tenant onto your body. He merely gave his religiously-based opinion, which many people right and left disagree with. Regardless of our disagreement, the man DOES have the right to express his religious beliefs in America. If you think it makes him a poor choice as a representative, don't vote for him, simple as that. But we simply can't start drumming people out of politics because we don't like some opinion they expressed. That's not what freedom of speech and religion are about at all.

 

[Jarod]

And Mourdock wasn't forcing any tenant onto your body. He merely gave his religiously-based opinion, which many people right and left disagree with. Regardless of our disagreement, the man DOES have the right to express his religious beliefs in America. If you think it makes him a poor choice as a representative, don't vote for him, simple as that. But we simply can't start drumming people out of politics because we don't like some opinion they expressed. That's not what freedom of speech and religion are about at all.

I happen to agree with Mourdock in that if something happened, it was devinly ordaned, I belive God is all powerfull and that the world is ALWAYS in devine order. That being said, I do not agree with what that opinion leads him to try to do regarding womens rights. And I believe expressing his view the way he did, if he wanted to be a senator, was galatically stupid. Now you can pretned the guy will still win if you want to Dixie, but he will not, and he has cost Romney some votes.

 

[Rationalist]

My hope is that a Romney administration will drive a stake through the heart of the GOP's obsession with controlling women's bodies, once and for all. Romney may be personally pro-life, but politically he's pro-choice. This is essentially my position as well. I don't think abortion is a great thing, but it's not my decision to make.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

My hope is that a Romney administration will drive a stake through the heart of the GOP's obsession with controlling women's bodies, once and for all. Romney may be personally pro-life, but politically he's pro-choice. This is essentially my position as well. I don't think abortion is a great thing, but it's not my decision to make.

Yea it's about 385th on my priority list too but then again, I'm not a woman and it's not my right to self determination that's being threatened.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

I happen to agree with Mourdock in that if something happened, it was devinly ordaned, I belive God is all powerfull and that the world is ALWAYS in devine order. That being said, I do not agree with what that opinion leads him to try to do regarding womens rights. And I believe expressing his view the way he did, if he wanted to be a senator, was galatically stupid. Now you can pretned the guy will still win if you want to Dixie, but he will not, and he has cost Romney some votes.

You know, if Mourdock had come out and said that he wanted to pass a law prohibiting rape victims from getting an abortion, because he thought it was God's Will for them to bear child, I would be right on board with the condemnation of Mourdock. That's just not what the man said. He was expressing a Christian-based opinion which opposes abortion even in the case of rape, which I disagree with, along with many others. I oppose abortion-on-demand, for the sake of vanity, convenience, or birth control. I am tolerant of keeping abortion as a legal medical option with restrictions and limitations. But this is not about what I believe or want. The man has the right to express his opinion, even if it's an opinion you disagree with and I disagree with. He doesn't deserve to be crucified and smeared over it, and the national GOP certainly bears no responsibility for HIS opinion, but that seems to be what the left wants to infer. THAT is what I am speaking out against.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

My hope is that a Romney administration will drive a stake through the heart of the GOP's obsession with controlling women's bodies, once and for all. Romney may be personally pro-life, but politically he's pro-choice. This is essentially my position as well. I don't think abortion is a great thing, but it's not my decision to make.

We have actual crying babies, partially out of the womb, being killed in abortions. Obama voted for what amounts to "infanticide" in Illinois. The abhorrent nature of partial birth abortion is something I can't stomach or tolerate, sorry! I think I am a reasonable and rational person, and I am not some far-right religious zealot who wants to impose my religious beliefs on others, I just think that unborn human life should be afforded some level of human rights. I think revisiting Roe v. Wade and establishing some base criteria and exceptions is in order, and should happen. What we are currently doing is insane and inhumane, and needs to stop! That doesn't mean that all abortions under all circumstances need to be outlawed, but can't we agree there is a very huge 'middle ground' here, where we can reach some sort of reasonable compromise?

My major concern about abortion is this... While some are screaming about women's rights to choose, no one is talking about the MILLIONS of women who have gotten abortions and lived to regret their decision. You see, no one ever told them how they would feel about it after the fact. When you take the life of another human, I don't care what the circumstance, it has an effect on you as a person. I am okay with allowing women to get an abortion after counseling, after carefully considering the decision and its ramifications, and after acknowledging this is really what they want to do. I don't want to see a day where women can't get an abortion under any circumstance. I don't think my viewpoint is extreme or intolerant, nor does it deny women any right they should have.

 

[hazlnut]

Romney is still supporting this guy.

I say again, Mitt Romney is still supporting this guy.

I guess 'moderate Mitt' was just a put on.