murder or attempted murder

which is worse

  • murder

    Votes: 6 100.0%

  • attempted murder

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    6
Mott the Hoople said:
I can speak of that from personal experience. I was mugged in 2002 when I unwisely stopped to help someone I thought was having car problems. He pulled a gun on me and told me to get out of my car and leave the keys in the ignition (this was after he pistol whipped me. He wanted my cash and I didn't have any). He wanted me to get into his car to go to an ATM. As we were walking towards his car a pedestrian walked around the corner of the block and he dropped the gun by his side. When he did I bum rushed him from the side with a shoulder block and turned around and hauled ass. He took a couple of shots at me but I was probably a few hundred feet away by the time he got up and took aim so he didn't even come close.

I ran to a near by BP who called the cops. To their credit they were there in minutes. To their discredit, even though I was covered in blood from being pistol whipped, once they made sure the assailant was gone and my car was safe (the asshole took my keys so I had to have it towed to keep it from being stolen) they just fucking left me there about 20 miles from where I lived at the time. I literally had to hitch hike home covered in blood. I was as mad at the cops as I was at the prick who mugged me.

I had another adventure when I went down to the cop station two days later to be interviewed by a detective. He was more concerned that I had taken my car out of impound with out the permission of the police. It took me 30 minutes to explain that I was the one who had the car towed to prevent it's being stolen. After that he just acted like he didn't give a damn so I literally said "Fuck this, this isn't going anywhere. You more concerned about that fucking car then you are about a mugger with a gun!". The detective went balistic when I said that. Threatened to throw me in jail for not cooperating with the investigation. I simply said "I'm still here aint I?" He then said "Oh just get the fuck out of here." So I left and that was the last I heard from the police on the matter. Assholes.

But I digress, my point being, had I gotten into the car with that thug I probably would'nt be here typing this.
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That's a hell of a story Mott. I carry a gun in my vehicle, and would never stop for some guy, although I would roll down the window and ask him if he wanted me to call a tow truck.
 
worse for who? the world, the murderer, the victim?

the world - as heartless as it may sound, i dont think the end result should matter. what matters is that the murderer committed, or attempted to commit, an act that would have as a direct result, the death of another human being with the full knowledge of the possibility of that result.

the murderer/the victim - depends on circumstance and each individual. i do not presume to know what goes on inside other people's minds. though in my mind, not dying is preferable to dying, even if there is considerable emotional trauma...
 
This to me is an oddity in the law. Attempted Murder and Murder should carry the same punishment as the intent was the same in both cases, the only difference is how successfull you were, and often that merely comes down to luck.
 
Jarod said:
This to me is an oddity in the law. Attempted Murder and Murder should carry the same punishment as the intent was the same in both cases, the only difference is how successfull you were, and often that merely comes down to luck.
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good point

in cali i believe the punishment for both is a life term, but i think attempted gets an earlier chance at parole
 
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