Nationalism and Nazi ideology

GuilleX said:
He was an uncle tom, a mulatto. His hook shot and his bracket picks sucked. Black my ass.
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I didn't mention color, but he ain't white, ask him. His picks and hooks may have sucked, I hate basketball anyway.
 
Totally understandable why Trump boot-lickers desire to conflate the word "nationalism" with the more benign word "patriotism"....ignoring that nationalism is historically and currently associated with unrestrained hubris, a sense of superiority to other nations and cultures, and a repugnant desire to look on others as inferior, unworthy...even sub-human (aka, shithole countries).

Yep, nationalism is an ideology quite correctly correlated with racism, militarism, and xenophobia.
 
Cypress said:
Totally understandable why Trump boot-lickers desire to conflate the word "nationalism" with the more benign word "patriotism"....ignoring that nationalism is historically and currently associated with unrestrained hubris, a sense of superiority to other nations and cultures, and repugnant desire to look on others as inferior, unworthy...even sub-human (aka, shithole countries).

Yep, nationalism is an ideology quite correctly correlated with racism, militarism, and xenophobia.
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Nazism, Fascism and Zionism share common ideology.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fascism
 
kudzu said:
military supremacy.

nazi ideology

Hitler’s 1924 book Mein Kampf

The two cornerstone documents of Nazi ideology were the NSDAP’s 25 Points (1920) and Hitler’s autobiography, Mein Kampf (1924). Nazi ideas were also outlined or discussed, albeit briefly, in many of Hitler’s speeches. But none of these sources was constitutional in nature, nor did they offer much in the way of details or specifics about how Nazi ideas should work in practice.

Hitler seemed to prefer that expressions of Nazi ideology were short, simple and broadly framed. At several times in the 1920s, Hitler resisted proposals to expand or re-draft the party’s 25 Points, declaring them to be “inviolable”. This was probably a deliberate strategy: because Nazi ideology was only ever outlined vaguely or in general terms, Hitler was free to interpret or re-invent it as he saw fit. Yet despite this fluidity Nazi had some core tenets that did not change:

Authoritarianism.

The Nazis desired strong government and extensive state power. They believed that government could not function effectively if it lacked the means to impose itself on society and enforce its policies. Decisions should be made by a leader with almost absolute power (a Fuhrer).

All political authority and sovereignty rested with this leader, who should be trusted by the people to make important decisions on their behalf (fuhrerprinzip). No other political parties or organisations other than the NSDAP could be tolerated. Other groups with political influence, such as unions or churches, would be restricted or abolished.

Totalitarianism.

To the Nazis, state power had few limits and could extend into all aspects of German political, social and cultural life. They believed it was the government’s duty not just to devise policy but to shape, coordinate and regulate society, for the betterment of the nation.

A totalitarian government must have the authority to control the press and unions; restrict civil liberties and freedoms; manage education and employ propaganda. Liberal freedoms from government power – such as civil liberties, individual rights and freedoms – were considered irrelevant and subordinate to the interests of the state.

Before total war, Nazism was a potpourri. Racialism and nationalism jostled shoulders with the socialistic revolutionary conservatism of many members of the Mittelstand (middle class). Romantic ideas came from right-wing youth groups. Hitler could utter the gospel of anti-capitalism to workers and the gospel of profits to businessmen. It was a rag-bag of inconsistent and incoherent ideas.

Walter Phillips, historian

Nationalism. Nazism was first and foremost a nationalist ideology. It was concerned only with Germany and German interests: restoring the German economy, achieving economic self-sufficiency, rebuilding its military and providing for the German people.

The Nazis had little interest in forming or improving international relationships, except to advance German interests. They detested diplomacy and despised multilateral groups like the League of Nations. Hitler and his followers had no intention of honouring or abiding by existing foreign treaties or negotiating new ones, except where it might help them fulfil their own objectives.

Militarism.

Hitler and his followers believed that re-arming and expanding Germany’s armed forces was essential for the defence of the nation. Rearmament would be carried out in defiance of the restrictions imposed by the Treaty of Versailles. Hitler also considered military strength essential for expanding the German state. The organisation and culture of the NSDAP were fundamentally militaristic, as evidenced by the size and popularity of the party’s paramilitary groups the Sturmabteilung (SA) and Schutzstaffel (SS).

Expansionism. The Nazis in general and Hitler, in particular, dreamed of unifying the German-speaking Aryan peoples of Europe, into a greater German state. To achieve this, Hitler believed his regime would need to acquire lebensraum, or ‘living space’, to accommodate the needs of the new Germany.

This ‘living space’ would be seized from the non-Aryan people of eastern Europe, in countries like Czechoslovakia, Poland and Russia. The first step to creating this greater Germany would be to achieve anschluss: the union of Germany and Austria.

https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/nazi-ideology/
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Correction: The NAZI PARTY was called the NATIONAL "SOCIALIST" GERMAN WORKERS PARTY....with Hitler's mission statement being, "We (the Nazi party) are SOCAILISTS, the enemy of capitalism and personal wealth......yada, yada, yada,

Conclusion: You are full of SHIT if you expect others to believe that Trump is an anti-capitalist national socialist that demands THE STATE (as in the central government) control all things, to include, education, healthcare, the banks, property, fire arms....etc. LOOK IN THE MIRROR if you wish to look at a political party that mirror's Hitler's mission statement. ;)

The type of NATIONALISM projected by Trump is simple in its mission statement, AMERICA FIRST.....MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN BY PLACING THE NEEDS OF THE US CITIZEN ABOVE THE NEEDS OF FREIGN NATIONALS...in other words CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME.

Which party demands open boarders, the removal of personal firearms, the control of the banking system, federal control of our children's education, selective free speech, etc.? Hint, its not the party of TRUMP.
 
GuilleX said:
America isn't a democracy but that's not what the thread is about. Try to keep up.
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It is true, the Framers meant to establish “a Republic.”

And yes, they openly and repeatedly criticized “democracy.”

But the “democracy” they were criticizing was “direct democracy,” and the “Republic” they were championing was “representative democracy.”

So can you guys (and it’s almost ALWAYS guys) please just give up on this silly “I’m-so-much-smarter-than-you high school debater’s quibble:
 
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