Nationalism and Nazi ideology

kudzu said:
It is true, the Framers meant to establish “a Republic.”

And yes, they openly and repeatedly criticized “democracy.”

But the “democracy” they were criticizing was “direct democracy,” and the “Republic” they were championing was “representative democracy.”

So can you guys (and it’s almost ALWAYS guys) please just give up on this silly “I’m-so-much-smarter-than-you high school debater’s quibble:
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Stop fucking around. Why is Trump a Nazi?
 
Ralph said:
Correction: The NAZI PARTY was called the NATIONAL "SOCIALIST" GERMAN WORKERS PARTY....with Hitler's mission statement being, "We (the Nazi party) are SOCAILISTS, the enemy of capitalism and personal wealth......yada, yada, yada,

Conclusion: You are full of SHIT if you expect others to believe that Trump is an anti-capitalist national socialist that demands THE STATE (as in the central government) control all things, to include, education, healthcare, the banks, property, fire arms....etc. LOOK IN THE MIRROR if you wish to look at a political party that mirror's Hitler's mission statement. ;)

The type of NATIONALISM projected by Trump is simple in its mission statement, AMERICA FIRST.....MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN BY PLACING THE NEEDS OF THE US CITIZEN ABOVE THE NEEDS OF FREIGN NATIONALS...in other words CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME.

Which party demands open boarders, the removal of personal firearms, the control of the banking system, federal control of our children's education, selective free speech, etc.? Hint, its not the party of TRUMP.
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Nazi was considered left wing... Fascism was right wing.
 
kudzu said:
I didn't say Trump was a Nazi.. I said he was too stupid to know what a nationalist is.
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That's not exactly what you did. You tied nationalist beliefs to Nazi beliefs and then said Trump is a nationalist. Transitive property. Put up or shut up.
 
Bunch of idiots.
To compare Hitler and Stalin to any politician in this country shows your stupidity.
To be clear the German army is not the same as a Nazi.
The Nazi Party was a political party which took control of Germany. The Nazi party formed a paramilitary group (SS) that was separate from the army. They were required to join the Nazi Party.

If you think Hitler was bad, Stalin was worse.
My family escaped with the Germans the brutality of the Russians.

It is laughable to read some of these posts that compare Trump and his policies to Hilter and the Nazi party. I say to these people put down your game systems and read a fuckin book. Also turn off the stupid television shows and turn on the History Channel or Ken Burns WWll documentary. You might learn something.
 
kudzu said:
Nazi was considered left wing... Fascism was right wing.
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:bigthink:....so the NAZI's were LEFT WING SOCIALISTS....but not FASCISTS? Really? :laugh:


Conclusion: You agree with Hitler's approach to government as you are a left wing socialist.

One post and you have already contradicted the conclusion of the thread. :palm:

FYI: Fascism is a "bi-sexual" bitch, she swings both ways, left and right, she's a switch hitter. Most importantly as demonstrated by every example of documented history...…..FASCISTS always promote a form of SOCIALISM while removing free market capitalism. Example: Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Castro, Chavez....etc.,


The first 3 traits of a fascist? 1. State Control (central government) of all media and entertainment outlets 2. State Control of Education and Healthcare 3. Taking away private firearms.
 
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Ralph said:
:bigthink:....so the NAZI's were LEFT WING SOCIALISTS....but not FASCISTS? Really? :laugh:


Conclusion: You agree with Hitler's approach to government as you are a left wing socialist.

One post and you have already contradicted the conclusion of the thread. :palm:

FYI: Fascism is a "bi-sexual" bitch, she swings both ways, left and right, she's a switch hitter. Most importantly as demonstrated by every example of documented history...…..FASCISTS always promote a form of SOCIALISM while removing free market capitalism.
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Nazism is considered to be one form of fascism. Though both Nazism and fascism reject the ideologies of liberalism, Marxism and democracy, these two are different in many aspects. It is hard to make a perfect differentiation between the two.

Nazism and Fascism have their origin in the 20th century. While fascism was in vogue between 1919 and 1945, Nazism became popular from 1933 to 1945.



Read more: Difference Between Fascism and Nazism | Difference Between http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-fascism-and-nazism/#ixzz5UxS5hFj1
 
kudzu said:
Nazism is considered to be one form of fascism. Though both Nazism and fascism reject the ideologies of liberalism, Marxism and democracy, these two are different in many aspects. It is hard to make a perfect differentiation between the two.

Nazism and Fascism have their origin in the 20th century. While fascism was in vogue between 1919 and 1945, Nazism became popular from 1933 to 1945.



Read more: Difference Between Fascism and Nazism | Difference Between http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-fascism-and-nazism/#ixzz5UxS5hFj1
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A fascist is a fascist regardless of the road traveled to the SAME DISTINATION.....STATE CONTROL of private industry, banks, education, property, media, entertainment...etc., As was pointed out.....FASCISM is a switch hitting bi-sexual bitch, she bats both ways....but in the end, SOCIALISM just like fatty shit, FLOATS to the top of the bowl.
 
Ralph said:
A fascist is a fascist regardless of the road traveled to the SAME DISTINATION.....STATE CONTROL of private industry, banks, education, property, media, entertainment...etc., As was pointed out.....FASCISM is a switch hitting bi-sexual bitch, she bats both ways....but in the end, SOCIALISM just like fatty shit, FLOATS to the top of the bowl.
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In communism, the state is the custodian of everything and it is the state that owns everything. On the other hand, in Fascism, the state has control over everything. In simple words, Communism means state ownership and fascism means state control.

Fascism believes in the ‘corporatism’ of all elements in society to form an ‘Organic State’. They were not racial and had no strong opinion of any race.


Read more: Difference Between Communism and fascism | Difference Between http://www.differencebetween.net/mi...-between-communism-and-fascism/#ixzz5UxXzzWEZ


The Doctrine of Fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctrine_of_Fascism
 
kudzu said:
In communism, the state is the custodian of everything and it is the state that owns everything. On the other hand, in Fascism, the state has control over everything. In simple words, Communism means state ownership and fascism means state control.

Fascism believes in the ‘corporatism’ of all elements in society to form an ‘Organic State’. They were not racial and had no strong opinion of any race.


Read more: Difference Between Communism and fascism | Difference Between http://www.differencebetween.net/mi...-between-communism-and-fascism/#ixzz5UxXzzWEZ


The Doctrine of Fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctrine_of_Fascism
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You just made a strong case for Fascism being Socialism.
 
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