Navy Halts Up or Out Rules in Bid to Keep Ranks Filled

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With the woke agenda and politically correct agenda the military can't meet recruiting quotas. So now they do this to try and have the amount od people they need


https://www.military.com/daily-news...-bid-keep-ranks-filled.html?ESRC=eb_221223.nl


The Navy is halting separations of sailors over "high-year tenure" -- a program that dictates sailors can only serve so long at a certain rank before being involuntarily discharged from the service.

The move, announced in a message and press release Thursday, is aimed at improving "Navy retention efforts and Fleet readiness."By removing this barrier to retaining career-minded Sailors, the Navy is broadening career progression opportunities for Sailors and allowing them the opportunity to advance to the next higher paygrade," Rear Adm. James Waters, the Navy's director of plans and policy concerning its sailors, said in the release.

Typically, sailors of any given rank can only serve for so long before the Navy would move to discharge them under the broad assumption that they were not performing well enough to stay in the service. A 2018 document on the policy described it as a tool to "enable the Navy to retain the right number of members."

AdvertisementFor example, a typical E-3 sailor can only serve a maximum of six years at that rank before being discharged under high year tenure. If that same sailor were to be promoted to E-4 he or she would gain the ability to serve for four more years.

The policy has been tweaked and revised as the Navy's needs and ability to recruit sailors has changed. Most recently, the Navy changed the rules to enable its senior enlisted advisers -- Command Master Chiefs -- to serve up to 36 years.

Now, the program is completely on pause. "This suspension means commands may not separate or involuntarily transfer active component Sailors," the release announced and noted that this change will "apply to at least 1,600 Sailors within the two-year suspension period."

The statement added that the branch "expects the policy will create fewer gaps-at-sea" meaning unfilled jobs on deployed ships -- something the Navy is struggling with.
 
With the woke agenda and politically correct agenda the military can't meet recruiting quotas. So now they do this to try and have the amount od people they need

https://www.military.com/daily-news...-bid-keep-ranks-filled.html?ESRC=eb_221223.nl

This isn't something new. I was E-7 when I retired. The chances of me making E-8 were slim to none as the promotion potential at the time was nil. The Navy was making one or two promotions a year. That meant under high year tenure I was going to be forced to retire. I did 27 years--well 26 and 11 months--when I retired. That's about all you could do under those rules.

The problem is that depending on your rate and NEC(s), you can be stuck at some level of rank that won't allow for retirement. HYT was instituted when the Navy was relatively flush with people in the late 90's and early 2000's. Now, with Gen idiot or whatever it is, people aren't signing up and staying. The system needed and needs to be more flexible. The Navy is trying to do that obviously.
 
This isn't something new. I was E-7 when I retired. The chances of me making E-8 were slim to none as the promotion potential at the time was nil. The Navy was making one or two promotions a year. That meant under high year tenure I was going to be forced to retire. I did 27 years--well 26 and 11 months--when I retired. That's about all you could do under those rules.

The problem is that depending on your rate and NEC(s), you can be stuck at some level of rank that won't allow for retirement. HYT was instituted when the Navy was relatively flush with people in the late 90's and early 2000's. Now, with Gen idiot or whatever it is, people aren't signing up and staying. The system needed and needs to be more flexible. The Navy is trying to do that obviously.


The problem now is with all this woke and CRT and politically correct they can't meet rectuiting goals
 
The problem now is with all this woke and CRT and politically correct they can't meet rectuiting goals

A lot of it is what they teach in schools. It's become "politically correct" to disrespect this country, our flag, our National Anthem and remove our Pledge of Allegiance.
With this mindset, it's no wonder kids don't want to enlist in the military. Couple that with training for the possibility of having to go to war.
 
VDH:

Our military is in dire straits. It is overcommitted, under-resourced, and without any geo-political strategy other than ad hoc responses without defined objectives. It has become politically weaponized and, inevitably, unable to meet recruitment goals. The Pentagon remains obsessed with exorbitantly priced weapons that cannot be produced in sufficient numbers in an age of hostile swarms of cheap, mass-produced drones and thousands of batteries of ground-to-air and shore-to-ship missiles.

Constant profiling, racial, and gender quotas and obsessions over proportional representation and disparate impact increasingly apply to training, education, and promotion—to everything except worries over the disproportionate profile of those killed in battle. The Pentagon has become adept in publishing racial data on every aspect of military service to emphasize disparity and bias—except concerning the combat dead.

To address the changes, retiring high-ranking officers should refrain from board memberships on contracting corporations for at least five years upon leaving the military. The uniform code of military justice must be strictly enforced, including article 88 which prohibits retired officers from attacking in personal terms high-ranking elected officials, and in particular their commander-in-chief.

Woke training is destroying morale and battlefield efficacy. The military must return to a race and gender neutral stance that does not erode meritocratic standards to fit political agendas. We should never again witness a chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff virtue signaling to Congress and the nation his intention to understand “white rage” in the ranks, without supplying any confirmatory evidence or data for his apparent allegation of systemic racism in the ranks—particularly not while the greatest U.S. defeat and humiliation in a half-century was unfolding on the horizon in Kabul. Any high-ranking military officer who informs his Chinese counterpart of his own psychiatric diagnosis that his commander-in-chief is unhinged and thus U.S. strategic intentions will first be relayed to Beijing should be summarily dismissed.
https://victorhanson.com/10-steps-to-save-america/
 
A lot of it is what they teach in schools. It's become "politically correct" to disrespect this country, our flag, our National Anthem and remove our Pledge of Allegiance.
With this mindset, it's no wonder kids don't want to enlist in the military. Couple that with training for the possibility of having to go to war.

Interesting

And yet you never served in the military when you had an opportunity to do so
 
I hear they've also decided to chuck the vaxx requirements......but they aren't reinstating those they wrongfully discharged last year.......
 
It is no mystery why the Revolution attacked Southern Culture where military culture was the strongest early.
 
A lot of it is what they teach in schools. It's become "politically correct" to disrespect this country, our flag, our National Anthem and remove our Pledge of Allegiance.
With this mindset, it's no wonder kids don't want to enlist in the military. Couple that with training for the possibility of having to go to war.

They are also making that part of military training. Biden shows he has no respect for the military with the programs they now teach
 
They are also making that part of military training. Biden shows he has no respect for the military with the programs they now teach

It is being remade to go after internal enemies of the Revolution rather than external enemies. As a traditional military force our military is increasingly useless, though we blow a lot of money on it. The Chinese for instance are now every year building ten times what we do as measured by force effectiveness, and they are still ramping up. Europe is militarily almost useless, and they are moving towards China and away from us, which will accelerate as they figure out how much we fucked them with this US driven proxy war in Ukraine.

America is Toast.
 
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