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Navy Halts Up or Out Rules in Bid to Keep Ranks Filled
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Dutch Uncle
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Care to wager that I can find posts proving you're a white supremacist, racist and antisemite?
The post you just made proves you're not a Christian both for breaking the Ten Commandments and Christ's Commandments. Will you deny you're a Christian too?
I am not your teacher, I am a fellow traveler telling you what I see, which you might take as valuable considering how often I get proven right by history.
I offer gifts, do with them what you will, I know what I know either way, I suffer no damage if you tune me out.
In otherwords you can't backup what you claim
Dutch Uncle
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Let's bet first. $10 donation to JPP in the winners name?
Assuming cant over wont is idiotic.
I don't bet
In say can't otherwise you are just to lazy
Dutch Uncle
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NO.
...especially when you know you'll lose.
You will show nothing
Dutch Uncle
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Not unless there's a reason for me to hunt it down. Watching you fork over $10 to JPP in my name would be well worth my time.
Unfortunately, you don't have the money to spare. Sad.
Like always you just spew garbage
I still remember when we were having 50k shortfalls, and were fighting two wars.
This is not the worst recruitment has been, but it is the worst pool of possible recruits. We have to work on being a more healthy country, but we will not. I think we all know why we will not.
Dutch Uncle
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It’s okay if you can’t handle it.
While technically correct, let's not forget who the Texas ANG worked for.
Under dual command, the Texas ANG works for both the state and federal government. They work for the federal government sometimes when training, and when called up to federal service. There were little guarantees before or after Bush's "service" that the National Guard would be federalized, but for a brief period of time, Bush had ironclad guarantees that he would never be federalized. You point to National Guardsmen who enlisted before Bush, and I have pointed to National Guardsmen who enlisted after Bush, but for Bush and his cohort, things were very different.
Dutch Uncle
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As previously noted, the ANG was already in Vietnam when Bush signed up. I think the misunderstanding is that Bush's particular squadron, which flew F-102 interceptors, was unlikely to be activated, although a few ANG F-102 squadrons did deploy.
The controversy with Bush wasn't that he got a cushy slot in a squadron that was unlikely to be deployed, but that he didn't fulfill his obligations to serve.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-102_Delta_Dagger
The Convair F-102 Delta Dagger[N 2] was an American interceptor aircraft designed and manufactured by Convair. Built as part of the backbone of the United States Air Force's air defenses in the late 1950s, it entered service in 1956. Its main purpose was to intercept invading Soviet strategic bomber fleets (primarily the Tupolev Tu-95) during the Cold War. A total of 1,000 F-102s were built...
...The F-102 served in the Vietnam War, flying fighter patrols and serving as bomber escorts. A total of 14 aircraft were lost in Vietnam: one to air-to-air combat,[28] several to ground fire and the remainder to accidents.
Initially, F-102 detachments began to be sent to bases in Southeast Asia in 1962 after radar contacts detected by ground radars were thought to possibly be North Vietnamese Vietnam People's Air Force (VPAF) Il-28 "Beagle" bombers – considered to be a credible threat in that time period. The F-102s were sent to Thailand and other nearby countries to intercept these aircraft if they threatened South Vietnam.
There was paperwork that Bush signed that said he would never be deployed outside the USA. I cannot imagine anyone before, or after even being asked if they wanted to not be deployed outside the USA.
Bush signed up in a short period of time where he got the choice over whether he wanted to be deployed outside the USA. Pointing out the regular Air Force who had transferred to the ANG were being deployed makes no difference to Bush, because he was not going to be deployed.
It is Bush's cohort. It was illegal to deploy his cohort outside the USA if they did not want to.
Dutch Uncle
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I find that highly suspect, since no US military organization would allow it.
I do find it highly probable that Bush family connections got him in a unit that was very unlikely to be deployed.