Navy Halts Up or Out Rules in Bid to Keep Ranks Filled

Dutch Uncle said:
The USAF didn’t exist in WWII. Agreed no direct draft to the USAF.
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You are correct. I keep getting caught in Air Force mistakes. This is actually painful.

The Air Force is the only military service of the big four that has never accepted draftees.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
No.

They once honored their promise to defend the Constitution.
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I worked as a contractor with them in the ‘90’s. Not only were they very woke back then but had a lot of slugs in their ranks. It was a jobs program from my point of view.
 
Walt said:
You are correct. I keep getting caught in Air Force mistakes. This is actually painful.

The Air Force is the only military service of the big four that has never accepted draftees.
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Key point: when the draft was active, people at risk of being drafted joined the Air Force or the Coast Guard to avoid being drafted into the Army. That's exactly what GW Bush did.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
And America is irreparably and irredeemably bad so why would anyone sign up to save it?
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When are you going to get out of your depression? You're gonna make yourself old and unhealthy! Get a pet, take up a new hobby. Get up and out and try to enjoy your life!

Remember- Life is what you make it!
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Key point: when the draft was active, people at risk of being drafted joined the Air Force or the Coast Guard to avoid being drafted into the Army. That's exactly what GW Bush did.
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I am going to correct you there. Bush was never in the Air Force. He was in the Texas Air National Guard. At the time, it was nearly impossible for them to deploy abroad. If you were in Air Force, Navy, or Coast Guard, you could still end up in Vietnam. For instance Bob Kerrey, and John Kerry were both in the Navy, and were deployed to frontline duty in Vietnam. It took some effort to get from the Navy to Vietnam, but it was doable. Bush was completely safe in the National Guard.

Bush's unit was considered a champagne unit, because wealthy families could put their young men in it, and they would not need to fight.

Oddly enough, Bush implemented some of the most harsh foreign deployments of the National Guard we have ever seen.
 
Walt said:
I am going to correct you there. Bush was never in the Air Force. He was in the Texas Air National Guard. At the time, it was nearly impossible for them to deploy abroad. If you were in Air Force, Navy, or Coast Guard, you could still end up in Vietnam. For instance Bob Kerrey, and John Kerry were both in the Navy, and were deployed to frontline duty in Vietnam. It took some effort to get from the Navy to Vietnam, but it was doable. Bush was completely safe in the National Guard.

Bush's unit was considered a champagne unit, because wealthy families could put their young men in it, and they would not need to fight.

Oddly enough, Bush implemented some of the most harsh foreign deployments of the National Guard we have ever seen.
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Truly ironic!
 
Walt said:
I am going to correct you there. Bush was never in the Air Force. He was in the Texas Air National Guard. At the time, it was nearly impossible for them to deploy abroad. If you were in Air Force, Navy, or Coast Guard, you could still end up in Vietnam. For instance Bob Kerrey, and John Kerry were both in the Navy, and were deployed to frontline duty in Vietnam. It took some effort to get from the Navy to Vietnam, but it was doable. Bush was completely safe in the National Guard.

Bush's unit was considered a champagne unit, because wealthy families could put their young men in it, and they would not need to fight.

Oddly enough, Bush implemented some of the most harsh foreign deployments of the National Guard we have ever seen.
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While technically correct, let's not forget who the Texas ANG worked for. :)

While Bush's particular squadron had little risk of deployment, that was not the same for all Air Guard squadrons then or now.

https://www.ang.af.mil/Portals/77/d.../AFD-091124-037.pdf?ver=2016-09-20-085100-920
Remembering the Air Guard in Vietnam
To prepare for possible conflict, President Lyndon Johnson
authorized the mobilization of 11 Air Guard wings (Army
Guard units would not be mobilized until May 1968). With
only a reporting date of Jan. 27, they were on active duty for
two days when the Tet Offensive erupted across Vietnam.
Renewed hostilities with North Korea never developed and it
soon became obvious that the ANG was needed in Vietnam.
At the time, a typical ANG organization had one flying
squadron plus all of the support units necessary to keep
its aircraft maintained and its pilots prepared to fly. Once
each of the wings was mobilized, they were often broken
up with their flying squadron going off to a foreign assignment where support units already existed from other U.S.
Air Force assets. Though some ground crewmembers from
each squadron would accompany the squadron overseas, this
left most of their support personnel available for reassignment as individuals or as small cells to be used world-wide
by the USAF. Many in this capacity served in South Korea.
So many in fact, that in late 1968-early 1969 the Air Guard
accounted for 60 percent of all USAF strength in Korea....
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ptif219 said:
His religion is irrelevant
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Dumbass, you're already on record supporting White Supremacy and antisemitism. You also claimed to be a Christian yet you spread hate and lies. Telling me more lies only makes you look stupid and/or insane.
 
Walt said:
The military has been having trouble making recruitment quotas for more than 20 years, so you really cannot blame Biden... Much less Soros. In fact, Soros has little to do with social policy, and he is not a socialist.

Moves like allowing homosexuals to serve in the military increased the recruit pool, and did little to decrease the recruit pool.

The real problem is plenty of civilian jobs, poor military benefits, young people not used to taking orders, young people with lots of tattoos in the wrong places, young people who are just fat, higher requirements for service, fear that service could be extended indefinitely.... I could go on and on, but none of it is that Blacks are treated too well, or that homosexuals can openly serve.
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It is far worse now the Army was 15,000 short this year

https://www.foxnews.com/us/army-misses-recruiting-goals-while-other-branches-fall-behind-next-year
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Dumbass, you're already on record supporting White Supremacy and antisemitism. You also claimed to be a Christian yet you spread hate and lies. Telling me more lies only makes you look stupid and/or insane.
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More of your lies. You have to take things out of context to promote your hate and lies
 
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