New Zealand's semi-automatic rifle ban

StoneByStone said:
Because I want sensible gun control?
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There's the word "sensible" again. The problem with making such claims is that you only consider it sensible if it's what you support. Placing restrictions on people that didn't commit the act that prompted your push for control knowing such laws won't prevent those that would from getting guns isn't sensible at all.
 
StoneByStone said:
Gun nuts always tell us that more gun control would lead to a dictatorship because the people would be unable to fight back against the government.
New Zealand is set to ban all semi-automatic rifles. Who wants to theorize how gun nuts will explain why New Zealand didn't become a dictatorship?
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New Zealand is a "constitutional" monarchy. That means they have no effective constitution are an oligarchy, or dictatorship by committee. That committee has the authority to change the "constitution" by itself anytime it wants to.
 
Legion said:
It became a dictatorship when it banned semi-automatic weapons, IMO.

Are you going to emigrate to Kiwi-land, Jew hater?
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It already was. It is a "constitutional" monarchy. It has neither a functioning a constitution and operates as an oligarchy, or dictatorship by committee.
 
countryboy said:
What's sensible about punishing law abiding citizens, for the actions of a minuscule few criminals?
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It's not about punishing anyone, it's about keeping guns away from dangerous people and dangerous situations.
When you take a knife away from a child who wants to play with it, you're not punishing the child.
 
Into the Night said:
New Zealand is a "constitutional" monarchy. That means they have no effective constitution are an oligarchy, or dictatorship by committee. That committee has the authority to change the "constitution" by itself anytime it wants to.
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So when will New Zealand be a dictatorship now that they have gun control?
 
StoneByStone said:
It's not about punishing anyone, it's about keeping guns away from dangerous people and dangerous situations.
When you take a knife away from a child who wants to play with it, you're not punishing the child.
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When you take a knife away from a cook because a child misused one, you are punishing the cook for the actions of a child.

That's what gun control laws do. You punish law abiding citizens that don't shoot up malls, theaters, or schools for the actions of someone that did.
 
Into the Night said:
They don't have freedom. New Zealand is not a republic. It is an oligarchy.
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They're a mostly free country like America.

When you take a knife away from a cook because a child misused one, you are punishing the cook for the actions of a child.
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How about when you take a knife away from a child because you don't want to take the chance that the child might misuse it? Is that punishing the child?
 
StoneByStone said:
It's not about punishing anyone, it's about keeping guns away from dangerous people and dangerous situations.
When you take a knife away from a child who wants to play with it, you're not punishing the child.
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We're not talking about taking knives from children. Of course it's about punishment.
 
StoneByStone said:
That's how you choose to see it. What I'm saying is that it's not about punishment, it's about safety.
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Taking away the right to self defend is about safety? What, the safety of murderers and rapists? Libs love them some murderers and rapists, you even want them to vote.
 
Into the Night said:
When you take a knife away from a cook because a child misused one, you are punishing the cook for the actions of a child.

That's what gun control laws do. You punish law abiding citizens that don't shoot up malls, theaters, or schools for the actions of someone that did.
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Actually, it is for a large part exactly those "law abiding citizens" who shoot up malls, theaters, or schools, they are "law abiding citizens" till they pull the trigger, Stephen Paddock was a "law biding citizen" until he set record numbers for shooting and killing Americans
 
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