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AProudLefty said:
"Whataboutism" indicates agreement.
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Nah, pointing out your inane hypocrisy indicates we noticed your hypocrisy.

There is very little you can say with any authority on this subject, you were taken in by the "misinformation" propaganda. Again, the only thing I see here is proof of the axiom: "If you want to know what leftists have done, just listen to what they accuse others of doing."
 
Damocles said:
Nah, pointing out your inane hypocrisy indicates we noticed your hypocrisy.

There is very little you can say with any authority on this subject, you were taken in by the "misinformation" propaganda. Again, the only thing I see here is proof of the axiom: "If you want to know what leftists have done, just listen to what they accuse others of doing."
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Where do we go from, all Presidents lie? Seems nihilistic.
 
Hume said:
Where do we go from, all Presidents lie? Seems nihilistic.
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It's not a lie to tell you that the Gulf is now called the Gulf of America. The lie would be pretending that the name hasn't changed.

Seriously, in this particular instance, there is no credible comparison to what was done by the braindead moron before this one (yes, I worded that correctly).
 
Damocles said:
It's not a lie to tell you that the Gulf is now called the Gulf of America. The lie would be pretending that the name hasn't changed.

Seriously, in this particular instance, there is no credible comparison to what was done by the braindead moron before this one (yes, I worded that correctly).
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Trump lies, you're good with that. Biden lies, he is bad.
 
AProudLefty said:
MAGA playbook: Deflect or employ whataboutism when Trump is questioned.
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Nobody was questioned but you. Leftists playbook. Attempt to get others to believe that your opponents are guilty of what you have just done to them.

Also, not a MAGA... Didn't vote for him, will not vote for him... I am willing to tell you what he's done wrong, but also willing to point out that in this case, not even close to the playbook written by the leftists who coined "disinformation" and "misinformation" and burned media sources if they didn't comply and produce the propaganda approved by their braindead hero.

What was done to America by your braindead hero's handlers required pardons for his closest family members, after the man literally said he found even the idea of such pardons by tRump to be wrong and that you would "never see that kind of thing" from his administration. Thus proving the addendum to the Axiom above: "If they plan to do something, the leftists will first tell you that their opponents are 'thinking' of it and tell you how wrong it is to do..., then they will do out blatantly and without remorse for their hypocrisy."

Anyway, the Gulf of America has been renamed. If a media source cannot tell the truth in this small thing then they cannot be trusted to tell the truth in the big things, they simply have an agenda. I get that the agenda matches your agenda so you think it is great... but what it doesn't do is provide the truth to the folks who think they are a news source.
 
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Damocles said:
Nobody was questioned but you. Leftists playbook. Attempt to get others to believe that your opponents are guilty of what you have just done to them.
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That ain't strictly from the leftist playbook, for anyone who has paid any attention whatsoever to our current President since '16.

It's how "fake news" started. It's the 2020 election lie. It's a ton of stuff.
 
BartenderElite said:
That ain't strictly from the leftist playbook, for anyone who has paid any attention whatsoever to our current President since '16.

It's how "fake news" started. It's the 2020 election lie. It's a ton of stuff.
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2020 election is the reason I didn't and wouldn't vote for Trump, he suggested that the constitution itself could be suspended to "fix" the "stolen" election.

None of which changes that the Gulf of America has been renamed. If a media source cannot tell the truth in this small thing then they cannot be trusted to tell the truth in the big things, they simply have proven they have a political agenda. I get that the agenda matches your agenda so you think it is great... but what it doesn't do is provide the truth to the folks who think they are a news source.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That's 6 points higher than Biden deserves.
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Biden, Biden, Biden.

WTFO? Why no comments about Trump's relationship with Putin? His dismissal of Ukraine? His desire to leave NATO with an Isolationist attitude.

Who do you think benefits and who is hurt by American isolationism, Terry? You consider yourself a factual historian, so I'm interested in your opinion on the United States and our international relations.
 
Damocles said:
2020 election is the reason I didn't and wouldn't vote for Trump, he suggested that the constitution itself could be suspended to "fix" the "stolen" election.

None of which changes that the Gulf of America has been renamed. If a media source cannot tell the truth in this small thing then they cannot be trusted to tell the truth in the big things, they simply have proven they have a political agenda. I get that the agenda matches your agenda so you think it is great... but what it doesn't do is provide the truth to the folks who think they are a news source.
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Nice ploy.

Renamed by Donnie. Who renames other territories? Can Trump rename Israel "Jesus Land" or is there an international process?

IDK I'm not a fucking lawyer nor desire to be one but common sense tells me the Orange Jesus is smelling himself too much with loud applause from Americans like you, Damo. Why do you support such a man so much? Just because he's not a Democrat?
 
Damocles said:
2020 election is the reason I didn't and wouldn't vote for Trump, he suggested that the constitution itself could be suspended to "fix" the "stolen" election.

None of which changes that the Gulf of America has been renamed. If a media source cannot tell the truth in this small thing then they cannot be trusted to tell the truth in the big things, they simply have proven they have a political agenda. I get that the agenda matches your agenda so you think it is great... but what it doesn't do is provide the truth to the folks who think they are a news source.
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We're in a post-truth world.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Nice ploy.

Renamed by Donnie. Who renames other territories? Can Trump rename Israel "Jesus Land" or is there an international process?

IDK I'm not a fucking lawyer nor desire to be one but common sense tells me the Orange Jesus is smelling himself too much with loud applause from Americans like you, Damo. Why do you support such a man so much? Just because he's not a Democrat?
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I don't really, I just poke holes in the weak arguments of the leftists. Not Democrats, just leftists. While I think Trump isn't a friend, I think leftists are deliberate in their bad acts and are capable of convincing themselves of the most absurd things. Like pretending that this is the same thing as using the force of government to silence the opposition on a public forum. It just isn't, the comparison is weak, and what was done by their own braindead hero is far worse than this. The Gulf is renamed, enough that even Google recognizes it...

just type "maps.google.com" then type in "Gulf of Mexico" and hit enter, tell me what image comes up... believe me I know. I tested it...

lol

Rand McNally maps gives you this image:

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I'm pretty sure you can read, if you can't then your AI helper can read it to you.
 
LurchAddams said:
The first rule of authoritarian leadership is to attack and try to silence the free press.
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All of those in the Resistance need to both own a long rifle but also be proficient in its use. They should also be ready to teach these skills.

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Damocles said:
I don't really, I just poke holes in the weak arguments of the leftists. Not Democrats, just leftists. While I think Trump isn't a friend, I think leftists are deliberate in their bad acts and are capable of convincing themselves of the most absurd things. Like pretending that this is the same thing as using the force of government to silence the opposition on a public forum. It just isn't, the comparison is weak, and what was done by their own braindead hero is far worse than this. The Gulf is renamed, enough that even Google recognizes it...

just type "maps.google.com" then type in "Gulf of Mexico" and hit enter, tell me what image comes up... believe me I know. I tested it...

lol

Rand McNally maps gives you this image:

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I'm pretty sure you can read, if you can't then your AI helper can read it to you.
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"...using the force of government to silence the opposition on a public forum." That didn't happen and you know it. Conservative views on Twitter were never censored.
 
AProudLefty said:
"...using the force of government to silence the opposition on a public forum." That didn't happen and you know it. Conservative views on Twitter were never censored.
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The courts disagreed.


The reality. Your braindead hero violated the first Amendment rights of Americans, and lost in court trying to defend that unconscionable action. They were censored, and now even you know it.
 
Damocles said:
The courts disagreed.


The reality. Your braindead hero violated the first Amendment rights of Americans, and lost in court trying to defend that unconscionable action. They were censored, and now even you know it.
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In short, evidence suggests Biden’s administration influenced social media content moderation, sometimes aggressively, but whether this constitutes "censorship" depends on interpretation. No definitive legal finding labels it as such, and platforms’ autonomy complicates the narrative. The debate hinges on coercion versus voluntary cooperation—unresolved as of February 20, 2025.

@Grok
 
Damocles said:
I don't really, I just poke holes in the weak arguments of the leftists. Not Democrats, just leftists. While I think Trump isn't a friend, I think leftists are deliberate in their bad acts and are capable of convincing themselves of the most absurd things...

...I'm pretty sure you can read, if you can't then your AI helper can read it to you.
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When one claims to be in the middle then only attacks one side, they ain't in the middle.

I'm clearly not a MAGAt fan but have always been supportive of traditional Republican values. Especially the rights of the individual. MAGAts think those rights only belong to people like them and no one else.

If you've been a staunch Republican like I had been for 38 years, beginning in the mid-70s, then you'd have seen how much the party's values have changed over the years. Especially after Newt took over. It's worse now with the Party of Trump. Not something either Barry "Mr. Conservative" Goldwater nor Ronald Reagan would support, IMO

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