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Dutch Uncle said:
When one claims to be in the middle then only attacks one side, they ain't in the middle.

I'm clearly not a MAGAt fan but have always been supportive of traditional Republican values. Especially the rights of the individual. MAGAts think those rights only belong to people like them and no one else.

If you've been a staunch Republican like I had been for 38 years, beginning in the mid-70s, then you'd have seen how much the party's values have changed over the years. Especially after Newt took over. It's worse now with the Party of Trump. Not something either Barry "Mr. Conservative" Goldwater nor Ronald Reagan would support, IMO

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I have never claimed to be "in the middle", that's just you thinking that Libertarians are "middle" folk... Hint... we aren't.

I attack one side more than the other because I distrust them far more. They are good at convincing themselves that they are perfect, I distrust idiots who think they are perfect and have convinced themselves they are "smarter" than other folks.

The courts say they violated folks rights, leftists say, "That never happened"... they come up with their own "facts" then call actual facts "disinformation" and threaten companies to remove that information.

Most importantly we have a chasm of difference in the main central theme of political ideas. If they see a problem their first reaction is, "There ought to be a law!" and they believe that the only way Congress is doing what they should is when they are passing more laws... I summarily disagree. The first reaction to a problem should never be looking to government to solve your problems, government is almost always the source of problems.
 
Damocles said:
I have never claimed to be "in the middle", that's just you thinking that Libertarians are "middle" folk... Hint... we aren't.

I attack one side more than the other because I distrust them far more. They are good at convincing themselves that they are perfect, I distrust idiots who think they are perfect and have convinced themselves they are "smarter" than other folks.

The courts say they violated folks rights, leftists say, "That never happened"... they come up with their own "facts" then call actual facts "disinformation" and threaten companies to remove that information.

Most importantly we have a chasm of difference in the main central theme of political ideas. If they see a problem their first reaction is, "There ought to be a law!" and they believe that the only way Congress is doing what they should is when they are passing more laws... I summarily disagree. The first reaction to a problem should never be looking to government to solve your problems, government is almost always the source of problems.
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Awesome.

A good reason but the fact you never attack the Party of Trump is telling, Damo.

You seem to only trust the "courts" when they do something you like, not when they do not.

Yin-Yang. Can't you see how this is like men and women? The French aphorism, "vive la différence" is important here. Agreed on those seeking government to solve their problems but why can't you see that's exactly what the MAGAts are advocating?

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Dutch Uncle said:
Biden, Biden, Biden.

WTFO? Why no comments about Trump's relationship with Putin? His dismissal of Ukraine? His desire to leave NATO with an Isolationist attitude.

Who do you think benefits and who is hurt by American isolationism, Terry? You consider yourself a factual historian, so I'm interested in your opinion on the United States and our international relations.
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Because I don't give a flying fuck about Ukraine. Ukraine and Russia have hated each other for centuries. I say, let them duke it out and may both ended up dead. Ukraine offers nothing to the US or Europe.

Russia on the other hand, is feeding China lots of critical military technology that is being exploited and is not in Europe's or the US's best interests.

Therefore, making nice with Russia and ending the war in Ukraine are in the US's and Europe's best interests. Prolonging it isn't.
 
Damocles said:
I have never claimed to be "in the middle", that's just you thinking that Libertarians are "middle" folk... Hint... we aren't.

I attack one side more than the other because I distrust them far more. They are good at convincing themselves that they are perfect, I distrust idiots who think they are perfect and have convinced themselves they are "smarter" than other folks.

The courts say they violated folks rights, leftists say, "That never happened"... they come up with their own "facts" then call actual facts "disinformation" and threaten companies to remove that information.

Most importantly we have a chasm of difference in the main central theme of political ideas. If they see a problem their first reaction is, "There ought to be a law!" and they believe that the only way Congress is doing what they should is when they are passing more laws... I summarily disagree. The first reaction to a problem should never be looking to government to solve your problems, government is almost always the source of problems.
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You don't have to be a leftist to be anti-Trump. You seem to get awfully defensive of Trump for him not being your guy. Is your contempt for leftists so bad you lose all sense of things? You employ whataboutism all the time to try and debase every criticism of Trump. Well, fuck Trump and fuck any leftist doing anything even close to mimicking what Trump is doing wrong. See, sometimes you can be balanced and fair about it. If you are unable to then that is what these derangement syndromes are all about. So, what is your derangement? Leftists? Biden?
 
Jade Dragon said:
You don't have to be a leftist to be anti-Trump. You seem to get awfully defensive of Trump for him not being your guy. Is your contempt for leftists so bad you lose all sense of things? You employ whataboutism all the time to try and debase every criticism of Trump. Well, fuck Trump and fuck any leftist doing anything even close to mimicking what Trump is doing wrong. See, sometimes you can be balanced and fair about it. If you are unable to then that is what these derangement syndromes are all about. So, what is your derangement? Leftists? Biden?
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We are all tired of Damocles's schtick of pretending not to be a Trump supporter
 
Jade Dragon said:
You don't have to be a leftist to be anti-Trump. You seem to get awfully defensive of Trump for him not being your guy. Is your contempt for leftists so bad you lose all sense of things? You employ whataboutism all the time to try and debase every criticism of Trump. Well, fuck Trump and fuck any leftist doing anything even close to mimicking what Trump is doing wrong. See, sometimes you can be balanced and fair about it. If you are unable to then that is what these derangement syndromes are all about. So, what is your derangement? Leftists? Biden?
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Nonsense, I detest rubbish arguments. Since most of the rubbish arguments seem to be on the one side they get my attention. Currently the rudderless Democrat Party deserves to be mocked... Their arguments today: "No there isn't any government waste!" and "he's taking 'our' money'" and "Elon bad" are not making much headway.
 
Damocles said:
Nonsense, I detest rubbish arguments. Since most of the rubbish arguments seem to be on the one side they get my attention. Currently the rudderless Democrat Party deserves to be mocked... Their arguments today: "No there isn't any government waste!" and "he's taking 'our' money'" and "Elon bad" are not making much headway.
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I literally haven't heard one person on the left say there is no government waste.

Not one.
 
Hume said:
We are all tired of Damocles's schtick of pretending not to be a Trump supporter
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Could not care less what you believe... I did not vote for Trump, I told you I would not and did not. I did pressure y'all to get rid of the dementia patient, but you waited too long and tried another undemocratic appointment without regard to what people actually think...

What am I tired of? Not much. But leftists make for easy targets at the moment.
 
Damocles said:
Could not care less what you believe... I did not vote for Trump, I told you I would not and did not. I did pressure y'all to get rid of the dementia patient, but you waited too long and tried another undemocratic appointment without regard to what people actually think...

What am I tired of? Not much. But leftists make for easy targets at the moment.
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So...bash Democrats and praise Trump. Gosh.
 
Hume said:
You always defend Trump.
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No, you just think I do because I bash leftists. Usually in some thread where they make a terrible argument. You just think it is "defending" someone because you don't like to be embarrassed when someone points out your hypocrisy or terrible logic.

Seriously.

I say, Biden has no brain during the election, leftist say: "Why you support Trump?" I say, I do not, will not vote for him, tell you why I will not and who I am voting for instead, you say, "Why you support Trump?"

Now: Leftist say something absurd like "There is no waste in government" I point out that they are absurdly ignorant and you say: "Why you defend Trump?"

Then we go through the same process again.

Do better with arguments, you will see me in other threads mocking others.
 
Damocles said:
No, you just think I do because I bash leftists. Usually in some thread where they make a terrible argument. You just think it is "defending" someone because you don't like to be embarrassed when someone points out your hypocrisy or terrible logic.

Seriously.

I say, Biden has no brain during the election, leftist say: "Why you support Trump?" I say, I do not, will not vote for him, tell you why I will not and who I am voting for instead, you say, "Why you support Trump?"

Now: Leftist say something absurd like "There is no waste in government" I point out that they are absurdly ignorant and you say: "Why you defend Trump?"

Then we go through the same process again.

Do better with arguments, you will see me in other threads mocking others.
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Look...I really do not care.
 
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