Our grotesquely fat president at high risk of heart attack

Your "natural product of aging" is a pretzel twist to attempt to excuse the fact that Trump is observably not nearly as mentally sharp as he was even just 10 years ago. I am just a few years younger than he is, and could give a far better interview/speech/talk without notes than he is capable of doing. In fact, I do so in class nearly every week, as a student. BTW, I am also a retired dementia care nurse. His speech patterns and even his gait are very similar to what we observe in this population.

As a dementia nurse, you robably know that it is unethical to diagnose someone without clinical testing.
 
As a dementia nurse, you robably know that it is unethical to diagnose someone without clinical testing.

Of course. And no one is doing that here, are we? We are merely discussing observable characteristics of a very public figure, including a measurable difference in speaking abilities, obesity, and admitted lack of exercise while consuming an admitted unhealthy diet.
 
Who said 'tons of energy"?

Reread the thread.

Well how much energy are you claiming he has, more or less than the average person?

trump campaigned like a rich man with a hobby. He flew home every night during the campaign to sleep in his own bed. He wasn't sitting in a bus criss-crossing the country, with all the rigors that entailed. So Hillary had him beat in that sense.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. presidential candidates are spending long days on the campaign trail and their nights in a succession of budget hotels, often in small towns. Not Donald Trump.

After nearly every rally, the billionaire real estate developer hops into one of his planes or helicopters and returns to New York so that he can sleep in his own bed in his marble-and-gold-furnished Trump Tower apartment in Manhattan.

In November and December, Trump held six rallies in Iowa, visited a local production plant and held one town hall, flying home each night. His nearest rival for the Republican nomination, Ted Cruz, has zigzagged around the state, holding around a dozen town halls and twice as many "meet-and-greet" sessions, and bedding down between stops in hotels.

Trump’s determination to sleep at home every night raises eyebrows among election campaign veterans, who say it could cost him. Voters in Iowa and New Hampshire often want more personal attention; they feel they play a special role in choosing presidential nominees because their contests are held first.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKBN0UM17220160108
 
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A half-century of leadership experience says otherwise.

leadership? :laugh:

He really fooled the flyover country rubes, for decades people in NYC has known don as a conman who had ties to the mob and who went bankrupt many times

leadership?

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Of course. And no one is doing that here, are we? We are merely discussing observable characteristics of a very public figure, including a measurable difference in speaking abilities, obesity, and admitted lack of exercise while consuming an admitted unhealthy diet.

Yes. It’s called the Goldwater Rule.

“The Goldwater rule is the informal name given to section 7 in the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics,[1] which states that it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures whom they have not examined in person, and from whom they have not obtained consent to discuss their mental health in public statements.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule
 
leadership? :laugh:

He really fooled the flyover country rubes, for decades people in NYC has known don as a conman who had ties to the mob and who went bankrupt many times

leadership?

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Trump has never gone bankrupt. Peddling more lies
 
Of course. And no one is doing that here, are we? We are merely discussing observable characteristics of a very public figure, including a measurable difference in speaking abilities, obesity, and admitted lack of exercise while consuming an admitted unhealthy diet.

Heff must have forgotten all the cyber-diagnoses of Hillary without clinical testing.
 
Yes. It’s called the Goldwater Rule.

“The Goldwater rule is the informal name given to section 7 in the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics,[1] which states that it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures whom they have not examined in person, and from whom they have not obtained consent to discuss their mental health in public statements.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule

What is your point? Are you trying to equate a group of anonymous posters on an obscure message board, discussing observable problems with the POTUS, with one of us being a licensed physician diagnosing that same individual with a specific condition?

This is distraction. You cannot rebut the fact that Trump's mental acuity is in decline, so you've gone off on a tangent.
 
What is your point? Are you trying to equate a group of anonymous posters on an obscure message board, discussing observable problems with the POTUS, with one of us being a licensed physician diagnosing that same individual with a specific condition?

This is distraction. You cannot rebut the fact that Trump's mental acuity is in decline, so you've gone off on a tangent.
No, I didn’t mean to deflect. I just assumed a former professional might still hold some ethical standards.

But still, without a clinical evaluation all you have is speculation. I have no problem with speculation, but often it leads to conspiracy theories.
 
No, I didn’t mean to deflect. I just assumed a former professional might still hold some ethical standards.

But still, without a clinical evaluation all you have is speculation. I have no problem with speculation, but often it leads to conspiracy theories.

I don't do conspiracy theories. Not sure how Trump's easily-shown decline in speaking ability could translate into one. Taking an educated guess at possible causes has nothing to do with professional ethics, but thanks for your concern.

I'm curious -- did you or anyone you know speculate about Hillary's mental and/or physical health during the 2016 campaign? I recall hearing that she was afflicted with everything from stroke to alcoholism to dementia, according to your RW pundits.
 
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