Pelosi says capitalism has not served the U.S. economy

T. A. Gardner said:
What you cannot have and be successful as an economy is one where those who do are regulated and taxed such that they have no incentive to actually move forward on anything. Success doesn't spring from government, nor does it accumulate from welfare. I hold up Greece and Spain as current examples.

If other nations in the EU weren't propping those two nations up, they'd have gone under long ago. All of Hispanic America, from Mexico to Argentina, has long embraced heavy-handed socialist programs. They have remained economic basket cases as a result.

The Marxist concepts of worker and environmental exploitation are so 19th Century. The West, as a hole, has proved Marx wrong--dead, flat, wrong.

Sure Capitalism needs regulation, but too much and you kill the goose that lays the golden egg. The same with taxation. You can't build people up with handouts either.
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The American economy was ROARING in the 1950s and 1960s with 90% tax rate on corporations


Deregulation and tax cuts for the rich have NEVER IS OUR HISTORY produced the results the republicans claim


Fuck off you lie whore
 
evince said:
Like lying us to war huh asshole Russian asset


Tax rates for corporations were 90% during the 1950s and 1960s


And our economy was ROARING

ITS the times the trumpers want to go back to


Your team lies about that huh asshole
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Because we were manufacturers to the world.

We've sent all that away with globalist zealotry.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Maybe to an oblivious idiot. As the Industrial revolution progressed, workers became less and less exploited. Sure, basic labor (eg., "Strong backs, weak minds") were exploited and are even today, but that's because they don't have specific skills or intrinsic abilities that make them valuable. It's also why unions, outside of bottom end labor unions have been in dramatic decline. There is no need for a union and solidarity if the employer is treating employees halfway decently.

Today, as we get near a century into the Electronics revolution, basic labor is no longer a necessity in many areas of the economy. That's accelerating too. What that is resulting in is an increasing surplus of worthless low end workers who can't perform more complex jobs while the simple work they used to perform is now mechanized and computerized.

Giving this group handouts, even generous handouts, won't fix social problems. It didn't in the Industrial age either.

Do I have a solution? Not really. I can identify the issue, but really don't have a good answer for it. I do know from history that a generous social-welfare state won't fix the problem and in most cases will only exacerbate it.
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They had 10 year old children carrying buckets of melted glass for next to nothing back in the industrial revolution



REGULATIONS STOPPED THAT


Taxes imposed on them PAID FOR THAT REGULATION


you lying asshole Russian asset
 
AssHatZombie said:
So do dems and you just blame the republicans for doing it first. What makes you better?
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Your party lied about global warming for decades because they loved corporate cock so much


Fuck the Republican Party


They lie us to war and try to blame the democrats for it


Your party needs to stop blaming the Democratic Party for the evil they do while the Democratic Party fights them
 
evince said:
Your party lied about global warming for decades because they loved corporate cock so much


Fuck the Republican Party


They lie us to war and try to blame the democrats for it


Your party needs to stop blaming the Democratic Party for the evil they do while the Democratic Party fights them
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I'm not a republican.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Trump has zero power.

Stop with the excuse making.
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He owns the Republican Party

The base will try to kill people for him when he speaks

Massive death threats and intimidation is taking place all over the nation because of his words


He’s your master
 
gemini104104 said:
Your bitch ass tRump, in particular, deserves zero power in prison too for no less than 20 years as a result of his squalid high treason and crimes against humanity, etc. Also there is no excuse at giving tRump a free pass who deserves to be in prison or other serious Constitutional punishments guidelines when it comes to the penalties of treason. This in particular, at conspiring with his GQPers to covid enable the murder of over 600,000 Americans and conspiring to engage in a 1/6 insurrection, etc, and also I don't give a rat's hide what you say. So go right ahead and kiss the devil's ass for all I care, and how's about that?
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They don’t understand that the American people won’t stand for their hate and lies anymore


They talk civil war


It won’t be a war


It will be arrests and imprisoning of criminals who are committing violent crimes against Americans
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I feel fairly certain that you dont have kids, because if you had kids you would almost certainly maange to be better.

LIAR.
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Your children will be ashamed of your worship of trump in the future


You people will be seen the same as confederates


The evil racist assholes filled with hate and trying to destroy our beautiful union
 
evince said:
They had 10 year old children carrying buckets of melted glass for next to nothing back in the industrial revolution



REGULATIONS STOPPED THAT


Taxes imposed on them PAID FOR THAT REGULATION


you lying asshole Russian asset
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And globalism is a race to that labor standards bottom.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Of course you have not the first fucking clue what matters.

Get Bent.
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We are the majority of Americans



This is a democracy


Which is why your party has cheated in elections for decades



COLD HARD USA COURT DOCUMENTED CASES


FOR DECADES


there is no like court record for the Democratic Party


You are the cheating lying sociopathic party
 
evince said:
Your children will be ashamed of your worship of trump in the future


You people will be seen the same as confederates


The evil racist assholes filled with hate and trying to destroy our beautiful union
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Don't count your chickens before they hatch, dum dum.
 
evince said:
We are the majority of Americans



This is a democracy


Which is why your party has cheated in elections for decades



COLD HARD USA COURT DOCUMENTED CASES


FOR DECADES


there is no like court record for the Democratic Party


You are the cheating lying sociopathic party
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Dems too.
 
martin said:
Misleading thread title. She said it hasn't served "as well as it should". Agreed. The country was built on free enterprise, made us the richest, most advanced society on the planet. Sadly, the public share of those riches has diminished in recent decades while the private share has lost all balance, causing our infrastructure to crumble and creating huge gaps in wealth. So, yes, lately capitalism has not served us as well as it should.
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Because the republicans keep cutting corporate and the wealthys taxes


And DEREGULATING EVERYTHING
 
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