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[Into the Night]

I'm not.

Lie.

If you really believed the Democrats are authoritarian thugs who stole the election, who are shredding the Constitution then why are you not doing something more than whining about it on the Internet?

He probably is. You have no idea what anyone is doing when not on JPP.

Either you're a lying chickenshit or you are mentally ill. Maybe a little of both which is what I'm inclined to believe.

Psychoquackery. Insult fallacies. No argument presented.

 

[Into the Night]

I am not ignoring it,

Lie.

I think it has a proper argument that was made in the courts,

The courts have no jurisdiction here.

but even if the argument had won,

The courts have no jurisdiction here.

I am pointing out that the remedy is not invalidating the votes.

It is not a remedy. It is what happened.

The election still stands.

There was no election. The election faulted due to election fraud by Democrats. Note that no court is necessary for evidence to exist. The evidence has already been shown to you. Argument of the Stone fallacy. Assumption of victory fallacy.

Joe Biden still got the majority of eligible American voters in those districts.

Argument from randU fallacy. Now you are just making shit up. It is unknown who won those districts. The election faulted.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

How so? These votes are tracked properly using valid legal methods for tracking votes.

Additionally this is a new argument unrelated to your prior constitutional arguments.

Not to mention Trump's own AG, Bill Barr said this: https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-widespread-election-fraud-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d
Disputing President Donald Trump’s persistent, baseless claims, Attorney General William Barr declared Tuesday the U.S. Justice Department has uncovered no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 election.

Barr’s comments, in an interview with the The Associated Press, contradict the concerted effort by Trump, his boss, to subvert the results of last month’s voting and block President-elect Joe Biden from taking his place in the White House.

Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”


Additionally, the former VP said Trump was wrong on the issue.

 

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You are avoiding reality,

Define 'reality'. You are denying history.

even if your argument holds true,

It does.

the votes are not invalidated,

The votes are invalidated.

the majority of voters in those districts voted for Biden.

You are making shit up again. It is unknown who won those districts.

They wore legitimate authorized American voters.

Correct. They 'wore' legitimate authorized voters, when they weren't!

 

[Into the Night]

Outline for us what you believe was unconstitutional and what you believe the remedy should be?

RQAA.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

the system didn't track votes deposited in unguarded drop boxes.......

I'm good with the results of all the court decisions and the comments by the former VP and AG. YMMV as it does with all the liars and mentally ill.

 

[Jarod]

dude.....the election was unconstitutional.......we all know you only defend this violation of the law because it put Biden in office.....ball up, admit he's a fraud and help fix the system so it never happens again.....stop defending the undefendable........it makes you look lib'rul.......

None of those cases say the election was unconstitutional. That’s simply horseshit. The way the rules that established the election were enacted might be unconstitutional, that ruling is under appeal. Even if it is determined that those rules were unconstitutional, the remedy is not to declare the entire election unconstitutional. You are not that dumb.

 

[Jarod]

No. Congress does NOT have authority to choose the electors for any State.

They didn’t, they used the certified State electors.

 

[Jarod]

I'm good with the results of all the court decisions and the comments by the former VP and AG. YMMV as it does with all the liars and mentally ill.

I don’t think Pimp is mentally I’ll, just desperate for his daddy substitute Trump to be in charge.

 

[Into the Night]

As I have pointed out before, the election was fair and honest

There was no election in 2020. The election faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.

and it was Trump and his minions who proved it.

No. It was Democrats that defrauded the election.

They demanded recount after recount.

Recounting the same invalid ballots means nothing.

They went to court more than 60 times losing them all.

Argument from randU fallacy. You are making up that number again.

They demanded control over the machines and counting processes.

Trump did not demand any such control.

They got them all and came up with absolutely nothing to back the dishonest election claim.

You can't discard the evidence by using a void proof, dude.

Trump and the right wasted many millions and merely proved our election system works

There was no election in 2020.

and Trump got spanked fairly.

No.

This is where the conning of the right shows.

Conning of the LEFT. Inversion fallacy. This is typical of the left. Take their own problems and projecting them on Republicans.

They refuse to believe what the election system and those in charge proved clearly.

Attempted proof by void.

How badly conned do you have to be to think the election was stolen?

You cannot make the evidence disappear by an inversion fallacy, dude.

It distills down to those who simply refuse to believe what those in charge stated and what the Trumpys proved.

No. It comes down to the Constitution of the United States (which was NOT followed by Congress or the election commissions of several States, and the constitutions of the various States.

Trump lost a fair election and our system works.

There was no election. You cannot lose what never took place.

 

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That's correct. In addition, although he complains about all the illegalities, notice he refuses to do anything about it except cluck.

It is obvious you are scared to death what he might be doing about it, or that anyone else might be doing about it.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes, there is. The system tracks the votes.

And it did. It showed the incredible number of fake ballots. You can't make the evidence disappear by wishing, dude.

Notice that people like you didn't question any votes in 2016. LOL

The election fraud still occurred, but it wasn't enough to fault the election. Yes, they were questioned. Denial of history.

In addition to that, perhaps you have already forgotten the claim of 'Russian interference' in the election by Democrats??? Nah. I know you better than that. You just conveniently fail to mention that.

 

[Into the Night]

Thank you, that’s two states where they are arguing about the way the rules we operated under were not properly enacted or the method people were allowed to vote were not properly allowed under the state Constitution, but no argument that the votes were not cast or were cast by ineligible voters.

It's part of the same argument, dumbass.

What remedy do you believe exists for these possible violations?

The Constitution of the United States. Follow it. The constitutions of the various States. Follow them.

Are you saying that these valid voters should be disenfranchised?

Yes. They already were. See the Constitution of the United States Article II.

Are you saying a possible technical error in the way the system was established should result in the will of valid voters being overturned?

Election fraud is not a 'technical error'.

 

[Into the Night]

The elections were not unconstitutional,

There was no election.

the process by which the rules were established might have been unconstitutional.

Pivot fallacy. The rules were not followed.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I don’t think Pimp is mentally I’ll, just desperate for his daddy substitute Trump to be in charge.

Disagreed. I think he fits the standard JPP profile for a Trumper: Elderly, Euro-American, lone male incel probably living in a facility but possibly some form of bordering house. JPP is their outlet to the world for them to vent their venom.

Have you noticed how hateful and vicious they are? Sure, most don't have the intestinal fortitude to be violent themselves, but they advocate it daily either directly or indirectly.

This "the election was stolen, democrats are evil that must be stopped" meme is an example. You know as well as I that most of these clowns won't do a damn thing. All they re doing is pissing and moaning. None of them want to go to jail and most of them are sane enough to know what will get them arrested and what won't.

The problem I see that is, by fomenting anti-American hatred and advocating overthrowing the nation to install a dictator, they are encouraging those who are crazier than them to become actively violent. They are scumbags like a mob that screams "Jump! Jump! Jump!" to a person on a ledge.

This type of crazy:

There was no election in 2020. The election faulted due to election fraud by Democrats....

A person who is a hair-trigger away of impulsively wiping out everyone in the house in which he lives then going to a Democratic office or rally to shoot that up too.

 

[Into the Night]

How so?

RQAA.

These votes are tracked properly using valid legal methods for tracking votes.

No tracking for fake ballots (although the evidence of them is pretty damn convincing, including video evidence).

Additionally this is a new argument unrelated to your prior constitutional arguments.

Fallacy fallacy. There is no non-sequitur here.

 

[Into the Night]

Saying it’s unconstitutional because of the way the rules were enacted is DIFFERENT than complaining that the votes were not trackable.

The rules were not followed.

Complaining that voter drop boxes are unconstitutional in WI is not the same either.

Yes it is. The rules were not followed. The Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the State of WI were ignored and discarded by Democrats.

You are all over the place.

Fallacy fallacy. Inversion fallacy. It is YOU making various pivot fallacies.

 

[Into the Night]

dude.....the election was unconstitutional.......we all know you only defend this violation of the law because it put Biden in office.....ball up, admit he's a fraud and help fix the system so it never happens again.....stop defending the undefendable........it makes you look lib'rul.......

He it desperately trying to legitimize the election, and is going so far as to ignore Article II of the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of WI.

Biden is not the President. He was installed by the Democrats as Chief Puppet. The real power is probably Pelosi and/or Obama.

 

[Into the Night]

Not to mention Trump's own AG, Bill Barr said this: https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-widespread-election-fraud-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d
Disputing President Donald Trump’s persistent, baseless claims, Attorney General William Barr declared Tuesday the U.S. Justice Department has uncovered no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 election.

Barr’s comments, in an interview with the The Associated Press, contradict the concerted effort by Trump, his boss, to subvert the results of last month’s voting and block President-elect Joe Biden from taking his place in the White House.

Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”


Additionally, the former VP said Trump was wrong on the issue.

You can't discard the evidence by pointing to any individual, dude.

 

[Into the Night]

I'm good with the results of all the court decisions and the comments by the former VP and AG. YMMV as it does with all the liars and mentally ill.

So you are good with discarding the Constitution of the United States and supporting The Oligarchy. Gotit.