Plague to Democracy: Mail In Ballots

[WinterBorn]

Incorrect. You should research the topic more.

"In-person"includes having the voter show up, in-person, to a polling place, which could be overseas, present a valid ID to a properly designated vote-taker, which could be military or consular, who has the voter's name/information on a list, following strict ballot-casting procedures.

The ballot can be moved/transported after being cast.

Mail-in voting means "OPTIMIZED FRAUD" i.e. no voter ID shown to anyone comparing to any list.


Incorrect. Those numbers are so infinitesimally small that local officials can establish mobile polling to have special vote takers go to the registered bed-ridden, immobile or otherwise home-bound.

No fraud permitted. We shall not provide the DNC with a vehicle for stealing elections, as they have demonstrated they will not hesitate to do, just in the name of ensuring that even dead people aren't disenfranchised.

Many service members are not available for such. For example, those who serve on FBM submarines are at sea and unavailable for 2.5 to 3 months at a time.

 

[IBDaMann]

Many service members are not available for such.

Aaaaah, you give yourself away. You are not military. Ask me how I know.

 

[Concart]

Nope. You get to explain to them how you are going to ensure the votes they cast are meaningless as the DNC steals the election through guaranteeing that they get to cast the meaningless ballots.


You believe that the DNC should be able to easily and effectively steal the election.

You are insane.

I believe that they should only be voting in free and fair elections, not going through the motions that will enable the DNC to steal the elections.

 

[WinterBorn]

Aaaaah, you give yourself away. You are not military. Ask me how I know.

How you know? I am an honorably discharged veteran. Not sure what you think you know.

 

[IBDaMann]

How you know? I am an honorably discharged veteran. Not sure what you think you know.

Nope. I'm not buying it. Your statement gives you away. If you were military, you'd know that isn't a problem whatsoever and why not.

 

[martin]

The "plague to democracy" are ignorant Americans who among other things they don't know, don't know the procedures for
processing mail in ballots.

 

[WinterBorn]

Nope. I'm not buying it. Your statement gives you away. If you were military, you'd know that isn't a problem whatsoever and why not.

I am ex-military. Your "claims" are nonsense.

 

[Kafka]

Many service members are not available for such. For example, those who serve on FBM submarines are at sea and unavailable for 2.5 to 3 months at a time.

Well, since there's a teensy tiny possibility that someone MIGHT do something bad with a mail in ballot I'm afraid those...what do you call them? "Service Members"? Yeah, those "losers" are no longer going to get to vote.

Sorry but we have to deal with the threat to democracy first and sometimes you gotta break some eggs to make the omelette.

Besides, Trump doesn't really NEED the votes of losers and suckers.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Well, since there's a teensy tiny possibility that someone MIGHT do something bad with a mail in ballot I'm afraid those...what do you call them? "Service Members"? Yeah, those "losers" are no longer going to get to vote.

Sorry but we have to deal with the threat to democracy first and sometimes you gotta break some eggs to make the omelette.

Besides, Trump doesn't really NEED the votes of losers and suckers.

Or the votes of the drooling MAGATs in his Cult. He's even stated that he just wants their money and their votes. Yet somehow these gullible idiots think that he *cares* about them and is "on our side" against the evil Marxist commie socialist fascist Dems who want to force us to have clean air, clean water, food safety, affordable housing, non-discrimination, vaccines, science, education, health care and all those other horrors.

 

[WinterBorn]

Nope. I'm not buying it. Your statement gives you away. If you were military, you'd know that isn't a problem whatsoever and why not.

I served onboard the USS James Madison SSBN 627. We would go out and hide for 3 months.

 

[IBDaMann]

I served onboard the USS James Madison SSBN 627. We would go out and hide for 3 months.

Great. Then you openly lied about fictional voting difficulties.

 

[WinterBorn]

Great. Then you openly lied about fictional voting difficulties.

I did not tell a single lie. Unless the election was just before or just after a patrol, the crew that took the boat out had no access to voting.

And if they did, it would be via mail-in ballots.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Nope. I'm not buying it. Your statement gives you away. If you were military, you'd know that isn't a problem whatsoever and why not.

It is a problem. It can take months to get a ballot if you are in some unit at sea or in the middle of nowhere, and the like. I know that first hand, just like WinterBorn. Right now, you're some Army schmuck stuck in Syria... Bahrain mail to the US and reverse takes about a month or so to go either direction, been there, seen that.

 

[IBDaMann]

I did not tell a single lie. Unless the election was just before or just after a patrol, the crew that took the boat out had no access to voting.

And if they did, it would be via mail-in ballots.

You are convoluting the conversation. I spelled out the definitions. What the military does is "In-Person" voting whereby the military member shows his ID, in-person, to a designated, authorized voting representative, who checks the name/ID against a list of names. The ballot thereafter being transported by mail does not make it a "mail-in" ballot. The "mail-in" ballots being pushed by the DNC don't require any ballot to have been filled out by anyone who presented any ID to any authorized voting representive.

If you were military, you would have known that any voter was required to provide his ID, in-person, to a voting representative who has a registered list of names. It is exactly as if the military voter is voting in-person at a polling booth. That's how that process was designed.

 

[IBDaMann]

It is a problem. It can take months to get a ballot if you are in some unit at sea or in the middle of nowhere, and the like.

Difficulty and/or potential complications do not equate to being unable to vote. The DoD ensures that everybody gets to vote.

Also, I will not allow leftists to fool me into equating minor hoops through which a few military must jump with a need to provide the DNC a power-tool for stealing elections.

 

[WinterBorn]

Difficulty and/or potential complications do not equate to being unable to vote. The DoD ensures that everybody gets to vote.

Also, I will not allow leftists to fool me into equating minor hoops through which a few military must jump with a need to provide the DNC a power-tool for stealing elections.

So no matter how difficult they make it, as long as you get to vote in the end, you are fine with it?

 

[WinterBorn]

Difficulty and/or potential complications do not equate to being unable to vote. The DoD ensures that everybody gets to vote.

Also, I will not allow leftists to fool me into equating minor hoops through which a few military must jump with a need to provide the DNC a power-tool for stealing elections.

Oh, and one more tidbit. When I served and voted, the ballots were mailed in. Isn't that what you are ranting against?

If they can mail a ballot for a serviceman, why can't I mail in a ballot if I cannot come to the polls?

 

[IBDaMann]

So no matter how difficult they make it, as long as you get to vote in the end, you are fine with it?

Great pivot.

I will not entertain handing the DNC a streamlined process for stealing elections just to make military voting easier.

 

[IBDaMann]

Oh, and one more tidbit. When I served and voted, the ballots were mailed in. Isn't that what you are ranting against?

Nope. Ignore what they are "called." In-person voting means you register your vote in-person, showing an ID to an authorized election official who compares your ID to a registered list. It doesn't matter how the ballot is transported thereafter.

What the DNC is calling "mail in ballots" is a process that produces filled-in ballots that are not filled out by anyone who provided any ID to any election official who verified anything, and the unverified, easily fraudulent ballots simply arrive into the vote-counting process via the mail.

Mail-in voting certainly restricts the mailing out of ballots to only people who signed up to receive such ballots ... but the DNC doesn't care about that part of the process. All the DNC cares about is the completely unrestricted nature of the reception and counting of inbound ballots. The DNC can prepare a bajillion fraudulent ballots and simply mail them in. The DNC is pushing for this to be legitimized precisely so that they can get started successfully stealing the election ... again.

Whever I discuss this topic with leftists, they make no effort to address the obvious immense election fraud at issue here, and simply make lame excuses to amplify the DNC's ability to steal elections. This results in people, such as myself, responding with a solid "No."

 

[Concart]

This is why I post here. Because you can see trump’s strategy playing out on the ground. People like this clown IBD/ITN/GFM will be out and about harassing voters, making false claims about voter fraud and perhaps even takimg to the streets. And the other clowns who sit on election boards will sow more doubt. The idea is to create chaos because at this point they know they are going to lose. Ginning up anger among the base is the tactic the Nazis are using, and make no mistake they are Nazis. Trump is even demonizing the Jews now, and their guy in North Carolina is full blown Nazi, even suggesting Hitler is better than what we have now. This is the playbook and in recent days the Trump campaign has begun shifting funds to the effort. We need to be there to stop them.