Plague to Democracy: Mail In Ballots

[Into the Night]

It's not a fact. It's a lie.

Blatant lie. Mantra 1l. Lame.

She's smarter than you.

Mantra 1a. Lame.

Trump is a moron.

Mantra 1a. Lame.

 

[WinterBorn]

Those who want stolen elections are naturally entirely dismissive. We have to restrict voting to "in-person" ballots only.

And that would stop people on active duty in the military from voting. And those who are homebound, for whatever reason, would also be disallowed if we stop mail-in ballots.

You want to prevent a sizeable portion of the population from voting, for no real reason. There has not been the massive fraud you want to claim.

 

[IBDaMann]

And that would stop people on active duty in the military from voting.

Incorrect. You should research the topic more.

"In-person"includes having the voter show up, in-person, to a polling place, which could be overseas, present a valid ID to a properly designated vote-taker, which could be military or consular, who has the voter's name/information on a list, following strict ballot-casting procedures.

The ballot can be moved/transported after being cast.

Mail-in voting means "OPTIMIZED FRAUD" i.e. no voter ID shown to anyone comparing to any list.

And those who are homebound, for whatever reason, would also be disallowed if we stop mail-in ballots.

Incorrect. Those numbers are so infinitesimally small that local officials can establish mobile polling to have special vote takers go to the registered bed-ridden, immobile or otherwise home-bound.

No fraud permitted. We shall not provide the DNC with a vehicle for stealing elections, as they have demonstrated they will not hesitate to do, just in the name of ensuring that even dead people aren't disenfranchised.

 

[Concart]

Incorrect. You should research the topic more.

"In-person"includes having the voter show up, in-person, to a polling place, which could be overseas, present a valid ID to a properly designated vote-taker, which could be military or consular, who has the voter's name/information on a list, following strict ballot-casting procedures.

The ballot can be moved/transported after being cast.

Mail-in voting means "OPTIMIZED FRAUD" i.e. no voter ID shown to anyone comparing to any list.


Incorrect. Those numbers are so infinitesimally small that local officials can establish mobile polling to have special vote takers go to the registered bed-ridden, immobile or otherwise home-bound.

No fraud permitted. We shall not provide the DNC with a vehicle for stealing elections, as they have demonstrated they will not hesitate to do, just in the name of ensuring that even dead people aren't disenfranchised.

So you think 15 million is an infinitesimally small number? Who is paying to have election officials visit each of those 15 million people? Tell me about the logistics of doing that on a single day.

How fucking stupid. Cue ITN.

 

[Litmus]

No they are not. How in the world do we know that the person's name on the ballot actually cast the vote? Signatures can be forged or not even checked as goes on in Democrat areas. Signatures alone are very poor identifiers. Over time a person's signature changes with age.

nordberg is so arrogant he doesn't know how dumb he is.

 

[Kafka]

And that would stop people on active duty in the military from voting.

Oh, you mean the "suckers" and "losers" who joined the military to fight (and possibly die) on our behalf? I don't think Trump necessarily cares if losers vote for him. He even thinks that POW's are less worthy of his time than people who "didn't get caught".

And those who are homebound, for whatever reason, would also be disallowed if we stop mail-in ballots.

I believe that those people might be considered "lesser people" poisoning our blood if they are homebound, so, again, Trump really isn't going after their vote.

You want to prevent a sizeable portion of the population from voting, for no real reason. There has not been the massive fraud you want to claim.

The existence or lack thereof of the problem is NO REASON to not FIX the problem ASAP.

Now unending school shootings? That can't be fixed. That's just life. But we are LASER focused on even the MOST TINY possibility of a CHANCE of there being a POTENTIAL of vote fraud. If some people's rights accidentally get infringed, that's just the cost of doin' business.

Without this we are nothing but a live-ammo shooting range.

 

[IBDaMann]

So you think 15 million is an infinitesimally small number?

I'm not going down that rabbit hole with you. You aren't interested in any sort of honest discussion; you simply want to ensure the DNC has optimized election-stealing mechanisms, and I can't do that.

I dispute your numbers and I dispute that providing the DNC a mechanism to steal elections is somehow the solution to making elections fair for everyone.

No mail-in ballots. 100% in-person voting.

Who is paying to have election officials visit each of those 15 million people?

Then don't implement it. You can explain to the home-bound why you consider them sufficiently unimportant.

 

[IBDaMann]

Then this country has tens of millions of evil people.

Yes. The DNC has successfully corrupted tens of millions of people into legitimizing contract killings and to ramp up plans for the mass killings of those children that manage to be born.

Honestly, what you think is evil is completely irrelevant given your self created baseline.

I created neither human physiology nor medical community guidelines. Your denial of established medical standards in pursuit of your lust for killing is duly noted.

No one cares.

You do not speak for anyone but yourself, much less for everyone else.

 

[IBDaMann]

Oh, you mean the "suckers" and "losers" who joined the military to fight (and possibly die) on our behalf? I don't think Trump necessarily cares if losers vote for him. He even thinks that POW's are less worthy of his time than people who "didn't get caught".

You are delusionaly insane.

 

[Kafka]

You are delusionaly insane.

Because I'm quoting your candidate?

That's weird. Why do you hate Trump so much?

 

[Kafka]

No mail-in ballots. 100% in-person voting.

LOL. You live in Imagination Land. That isn't even rational.

You can explain to the home-bound why you consider them sufficiently unimportant.

How do you square the homebound with your demand for 100% in-person voting. Does the word "home-bound" mean anything to you? Look at each individual word and hit up the dictionary. I'm sure you might see a minor flaw in your plan.

Or are you proposing a multi-billion dollar fix for a non-existent problem?

 

[Nordberg]

nordberg is so arrogant he doesn't know how dumb he is.

I have volunteered for elections a few times. I have seen it in action. Yeah. it's me who does not know how it works.

 

[Litmus]

I have volunteered for elections a few times. I have seen it in action. Yeah. it's me who does not know how it works.

and you think the colonies shipped ballots to DC?

 

[Concart]

I'm not going down that rabbit hole with you. You aren't interested in any sort of honest discussion; you simply want to ensure the DNC has optimized election-stealing mechanisms, and I can't do that.

I dispute your numbers and I dispute that providing the DNC a mechanism to steal elections is somehow the solution to making elections fair for everyone.

No mail-in ballots. 100% in-person voting.


Then don't implement it. You can explain to the home-bound why you consider them sufficiently unimportant.

No, YOU can explain that to them. I believe they should have access to mail-in ballots. You don't think they should be allowed to vote. The logistics of your proposal are literally impossible.

 

[Nordberg]

and you think the colonies shipped ballots to DC?

No, they obviously voted online. You say the dumbest shit.

 

[IBDaMann]

How do you square the homebound with your demand for 100% in-person voting.

I explained that in a previous post.

How do you square "free and fair elections" with handing the DNC an optimized methodology for stealing elections?

 

[IBDaMann]

No, YOU can explain that to them.

Nope. You get to explain to them how you are going to ensure the votes they cast are meaningless as the DNC steals the election through guaranteeing that they get to cast the meaningless ballots.

I believe they should have access to mail-in ballots.

You believe that the DNC should be able to easily and effectively steal the election.

You don't think they should be allowed to vote.

I believe that they should only be voting in free and fair elections, not going through the motions that will enable the DNC to steal the elections.

 

[Kafka]

I explained that in a previous post.

So you want the American taxpayer on the hook for what will surely cost MANY millions if not billions of dollars to fix a nearly non-existent problem. Just based on your FEAR that there's a POSSIBILITY that MAYBE someone MIGHT commit fraud with them but has, so far, not done it.

How do you square "free and fair elections" with handing the DNC an optimized methodology for stealing elections?

Remember 2016? Remember who won? Do you? Do you think there were no mail-in ballots in 2016? Because I can tell you you are wrong. Where I live my wife and I almost exclusively use mail-in ballots.

 

[IBDaMann]

So you want the American taxpayer on the hook for what will surely cost MANY millions if not billions of dollars to fix

Nope. I want to save MANY $millions, if not $billions, by doing away with all the machinery that enables the DNC to steal elections. The DNC has already stolen one elections and it has been disastrous to the country. The republic won't survive another stolen election. We need to bring back free and fair elections immediately.

 

[Kafka]

Nope.

I know Republicans have a problem with this concept but you should learn now: there are no free lunches. You can't have it both ways. You want the problem fixed, you gotta pay.

I want to save MANY $millions, if not $billions, by doing away with all the machinery that enables the DNC to steal elections.

And increase VASTLY the infrastructure necessary to get someone to visit every single housebound individual of voting age in the US.

Do you think that's going to be cheap?

The DNC has already stolen one elections and it has been disastrous to the country. The republic won't survive another stolen election. We need to bring back free and fair elections immediately.

Clutch those pearls.