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Matt Dillon said:
Your better suggestion is what-?

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No way you're a Marine or American. Liar...[/QUOTE]

Geez. Dude, you're proving you are a lameass kid, not an adult. Go let your mommy play on the computer for awhile. Maybe she and I can swap pictures.

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Jack said:
I think there is a book out about the 'Rise and Fall of Empires'. It's like a cycle. I hope we can defend 'Individual Freedom'. That was hard to achieve.
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We'll still have other Western countries. I don't think the fall of America will be a domino effect.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Geez. Dude, you're proving you are a lameass kid, not an adult. Go let your mommy play on the computer for awhile. Maybe she and I can swap pictures.

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Wtf ever bitch. I'm from the real world, boy.
 
StoneByStone said:
We'll still have other Western countries. I don't think the fall of America will be a domino effect.
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China and other Authoritarian Governments may rise to be the World Leaders. Other Countries may follow suit.
At one time, before the Nixon 'No-Knock Law', the Police had to knock on your door and identify themselves.
It was based on a thousand years of 'Your Home is your Castle' from Britain.
Now, most of America cheers when they see men, dressed in Camo, attack a Farm Family in Waco.
The State is already supplementing the Individual Citizen.
 
Jack said:
China and other Authoritarian Governments may rise to be the World Leaders. Other Countries may follow suit.
At one time, before the Nixon 'No-Knock Law', the Police had to knock on your door and identify themselves.
It was based on a thousand years of 'Your Home is your Castle' from Britain.
Now, most of America cheers when they see men, dressed in Camo, attack a Farm Family in Waco.
The State is already supplementing the Individual Citizen.
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With the full support of both the Democratic and Republican parties.
 
Jack said:
China and other Authoritarian Governments may rise to be the World Leaders. Other Countries may follow suit.
At one time, before the Nixon 'No-Knock Law', the Police had to knock on your door and identify themselves.
It was based on a thousand years of 'Your Home is your Castle' from Britain.
Now, most of America cheers when they see men, dressed in Camo, attack a Farm Family in Waco.
The State is already supplementing the Individual Citizen.
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The good thing about Fascism is that it sucks. Fascist countries aren't nearly as productive as free countries, which is why the only economically successful Fascist countries had vampire economies. It's also why China still has major problems with instability and is nowhere closer to being the next great power than they were fifty years ago. There's a much better chance that Germany is going to be the next great power due to its control of the EU. So yeah, I'm not worried about China.

The reason so many Americans have given up on freedom is because so many of them have given up on America. In other Western countries, where they still have a national identity, that hasn't happened.
 
StoneByStone said:
The good thing about Fascism is that it sucks. Fascist countries aren't nearly as productive as free countries, which is why the only economically successful Fascist countries had vampire economies. It's also why China still has major problems with instability and is nowhere closer to being the next great power than they were fifty years ago. There's a much better chance that Germany is going to be the next great power due to its control of the EU. So yeah, I'm not worried about China.

The reason so many Americans have given up on freedom is because so many of them have given up on America. In other Western countries, where they still have a national identity, that hasn't happened.
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The bad thing about fascism is that barely two people can agree on what the word means...
 
StoneByStone said:
The good thing about Fascism is that it sucks. Fascist countries aren't nearly as productive as free countries, which is why the only economically successful Fascist countries had vampire economies. It's also why China still has major problems with instability and is nowhere closer to being the next great power than they were fifty years ago. There's a much better chance that Germany is going to be the next great power due to its control of the EU. So yeah, I'm not worried about China.

The reason so many Americans have given up on freedom is because so many of them have given up on America. In other Western countries, where they still have a national identity, that hasn't happened.
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I disagree with you about China.
I somewhat agree with you on Germany being the 'Fourth Reich'.

"The term "Third Reich" was coined by Arthur Moeller van den Bruck in his 1923 book Das Dritte Reich. He defined the Holy Roman Empire (962–1806) as the "First Reich", and the German Empire (1871–1918) as the "Second Reich", while the "Third Reich" was an ideal state including all German peoples, including Austria."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Reich

And on 'National Identity'.
"Some commentators in various parts of Europe have used the term "Fourth Reich" to point at the influence that they believe Germany exerts within the European Union.[6][7][8]"

Pretty sure Europe DOESN'T have a single 'National Identity'.
 
Jack said:
I disagree with you about China.
I somewhat agree with you on Germany being the 'Fourth Reich'.

"The term "Third Reich" was coined by Arthur Moeller van den Bruck in his 1923 book Das Dritte Reich. He defined the Holy Roman Empire (962–1806) as the "First Reich", and the German Empire (1871–1918) as the "Second Reich", while the "Third Reich" was an ideal state including all German peoples, including Austria."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Reich

And on 'National Identity'.
"Some commentators in various parts of Europe have used the term "Fourth Reich" to point at the influence that they believe Germany exerts within the European Union.[6][7][8]"

Pretty sure Europe DOESN'T have a single 'National Identity'.
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I don't think it's very accurate to call the Federal Republic of Germany "the Fourth Reich." The term has overtones of a Germany that is an empire with a dictator which encompasses most of the Germanic peoples. Modern Germany is none of those things.

Europe doesn't have a single national identity, but the different European countries do. Right now the biggest mistake the EU is making is stepping over national sovereignty and letting in thousands of non-white immigrants. However, there has been a growing resistance to that. Brexit has been kind of a wake-up slap to the EU, letting them know that loyalty to the union isn't unconditional. So if the EU stops taking in refugees and allows the individual countries to have their sovereignty, things should be fine. And if the EU remains, then Germany will be the single strongest county in the world due to its position in the EU.
 
StoneByStone said:
I don't think it's very accurate to call the Federal Republic of Germany "the Fourth Reich." The term has overtones of a Germany that is an empire with a dictator which encompasses most of the Germanic peoples. Modern Germany is none of those things.

Europe doesn't have a single national identity, but the different European countries do. Right now the biggest mistake the EU is making is stepping over national sovereignty and letting in thousands of non-white immigrants. However, there has been a growing resistance to that. Brexit has been kind of a wake-up slap to the EU, letting them know that loyalty to the union isn't unconditional. So if the EU stops taking in refugees and allows the individual countries to have their sovereignty, things should be fine. And if the EU remains, then Germany will be the single strongest county in the world due to its position in the EU.
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What should they do w/ the ones already there/FOB???
 
StoneByStone said:
I don't think it's very accurate to call the Federal Republic of Germany "the Fourth Reich." The term has overtones of a Germany that is an empire with a dictator which encompasses most of the Germanic peoples. Modern Germany is none of those things.

Europe doesn't have a single national identity, but the different European countries do. Right now the biggest mistake the EU is making is stepping over national sovereignty and letting in thousands of non-white immigrants. However, there has been a growing resistance to that. Brexit has been kind of a wake-up slap to the EU, letting them know that loyalty to the union isn't unconditional. So if the EU stops taking in refugees and allows the individual countries to have their sovereignty, things should be fine. And if the EU remains, then Germany will be the single strongest county in the world due to its position in the EU.
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The 'Fourth Reich' is a shorthand for the modern day 'Holy Roman Empire' (European Union).
"The Holy Roman Empire (Latin: Sacrum Imperium Romanum; German: Heiliges Römisches Reich), often unofficially referred to as the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation,[7] was a multi-ethnic complex of territories in Western and Central Europe that developed during the Early Middle Ages and continued until its dissolution in 1806 during the Napoleonic Wars.[8] The largest territory of the empire after 962 was the Kingdom of Germany, ..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire

It was basically a unifying force, similar to the European Union.

So ...
1. There's no 'National Identity' as far as the EU is concerned, they all have their own 'identities'. (which we both agree upon)
2. And, yes, I agree, once you let a large percent of Foreigners into a Nation, you dilute the National Identity. (I think it's a fait accompli, in other words, too late to do anything about it)
 
Jack said:
The 'Fourth Reich' is a shorthand for the modern day 'Holy Roman Empire' (European Union).
"The Holy Roman Empire (Latin: Sacrum Imperium Romanum; German: Heiliges Römisches Reich), often unofficially referred to as the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation,[7] was a multi-ethnic complex of territories in Western and Central Europe that developed during the Early Middle Ages and continued until its dissolution in 1806 during the Napoleonic Wars.[8] The largest territory of the empire after 962 was the Kingdom of Germany, ..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire

It was basically a unifying force, similar to the European Union.

So ...
1. There's no 'National Identity' as far as the EU is concerned, they all have their own 'identities'. (which we both agree upon)
2. And, yes, I agree, once you let a large percent of Foreigners into a Nation, you dilute the National Identity. (I think it's a fait accompli, in other words, too late to do anything about it)
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Why is it to late??

Not like those good folks there don't have a history ppl could look @??

What have they done in the past??
 
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