Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
The reality is the same tears in the constitution are appearing right now, I complained then, I complain now. The only difference.... liberals stopped complaining.
Instead of magically ending wiretapping with no warrants, we actually get it harder and faster with an argument added that you cannot sue them. Liberals, some barely mention it in some threads on this message board but otherwise ignore it, the rest... silence.
Tribunals... momentarily suspended, then started right back up again. Silence.
Iraq... Bush's time line... silence...
In all the things that supposedly mattered the most before the election, the things I heard the most about and often agreed with y'all about... all we get from you is silence and apology.
For the past 8 years I have spoken against the expansion of government by what normally would be my own party, but they bowed down to liberalism, heard the powerful sirens call of fascism. Bush was no conservative.
I suggest you follow the ACLU cases being filed against the Obama administrations recent actions...then listen to the progressive programs of Pacifica Broadcasting. There are a LOT of people not happy with Obama's decisions, and are quite vocal about it. Hell, I even started a thread questioning whether Obama was the new Slick Willy. Not many folk touched that...I would have thought every neocon on this board would have chimed in....go figure.
That the MSM doesn't cover this is no big surprise...given their less than stellar performance during the Shrub's reign.
As for the Shrub not being a conservative...you're right. He was a NEW Conservative...or a neocon for short. As I said, the PNAC agenda has NOTHING to do with liberalism, and that is what the Shrub followed to the letter. So Southern Man's claim is just illogical, if not irrational.