Proud to serve my country!

I belive Exxon should be taxed and taxed big. I also belive we should move away from income tax and have an inheritance tax and some other taxes... but I am still proud to pay what our elected officials have said I owe.


Good boy, Jarod...good boy....its lapdogs and bootlickers like you that are the favorites of the those now in Washington....for all practical purposes, you're just about brain dead....the perfect Democrat constituent...
 
Why be afraid to admit something that's true?

I considered myself liberal, when I was younger. Now, I cannot.

Oh please, please don't claim you're not liberal...your posts are for the most much too idiotic to be anything other than liberal....please say you're a Democrat....please.

But you knew that from your seances with my mom, didn't you?

You don't seem to share my definition of fairness.

Taxation is fair if all receive equal treatment according to their category. I don't like our current tax structure either, but I don't think it's unfair.

If a flat tax on income demanded 10% from everyone, people earning more would still pay a higher amount. Would that be fair?

a flat 10% or whatever, ..Its a hell of a lot fairer that the present Marxist scheme.....

Are you claiming that Pappy and Mammy Man were singled out and forced to pay more income tax than the other high rollers they doubtless associated with?
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One of the last of the compulsary duties of an American, paying your taxes. I am proud to do my part at keeping America strong, its a duty that pales in comparison to joining the armed forces, but its what I can contribute to this great nation.

I am proud to do my part! What I get back pales in comparison to what I have to give....!

Thank God I was born in the USA!

And for the last two years, Tax Freedom Day is earlier and at a lower percentage that at any time in the previous administration.

Year TFD Percentage tax burden

1940 March 7 17.90%
1950 March 31 24.60%
1960 April 11 27.70%
1970 April 19 29.60%
1980 April 21 30.40%
1990 April 21 30.40%
2000 May 1 33.00%
2001 April 27 31.80%
2002 April 17 29.20%
2003 April 14 28.40%
2004 April 15 28.50%
2005 April 21 30.20%
2006 April 24 31.20%
2007 April 24 31.10%
2008 April 16 29.00%
2009 April 8 26.60%
2010 April 9 26.90%

Tax Freedom Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I am proud that I found a way to have ZERO tax liability this year, the first time that has happened since I have been an adult!

I did have some taxable income, but after deducting my losses and claiming the credits I was eligible for, my actual tax liability was nothing. I feel a little bit guilty that Jarhead paid $45k and I got the same benefits, but it's the system he likes and thinks is best, so who am I to argue with that?

Now granted, my actual productivity and stimulation of the economy was quite diminished this year over the days of old. I turned down numerous investment opportunities I could have taken, which I would have made a pretty good return on, but I decided I was going to see how little income I could earn this year, and it certainly paid off at tax time. All of my children are now adults, and I am divorced, so I really only have myself to provide for, and this was the basis for my choice to be less productive. I am happy as a clam, sitting at home playing my guitar and arguing with idiots on the Internet all day, to hell with having to go actually.... WORK!

Of course, the biggest "help" in enabling me to be able to skirt by with such little effort, was my monthly casino check from the Cherokee tribe. You would think I would have to pay a lot of tax on that, but believe it or not, they give you credits to mitigate any tax liability because you are an Injun! I know, it's crazy, right? But anyways, this is how I mostly got by without actually having a taxable income. I have to say, it was a nice year... I have never felt so relaxed and comfortable, it really relieves stress to go off the grid! I'm considering trying homelessness for a while, just to see if I can manage to survive without spending any of my money. I'll probably wait until the VAT tax to do that though....
 
And for the last two years, Tax Freedom Day is earlier and at a lower percentage that at any time in the previous administration.

Year TFD Percentage tax burden

1940 March 7 17.90%
1950 March 31 24.60%
1960 April 11 27.70%
1970 April 19 29.60%
1980 April 21 30.40%
1990 April 21 30.40%
2000 May 1 33.00%
2001 April 27 31.80%
2002 April 17 29.20%
2003 April 14 28.40%
2004 April 15 28.50%
2005 April 21 30.20%
2006 April 24 31.20%
2007 April 24 31.10%
2008 April 16 29.00%
2009 April 8 26.60%
2010 April 9 26.90%

Tax Freedom Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


You can see where it was at the end of the last democrat administration....lets see what it'll be at the end of this one.....
 
What I found was that this year and last year were the earliest it's been since 1965.

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Among Democrats, Calls To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-ma...=among-democratscalls-to-extend-bush-tax-cuts


By Martin Vaughan, Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- Some Capitol Hill Democrats want President Barack Obama to extend tax cuts for wealthy Americans now scheduled to expire at the end of 2010, arguing that a tax increase could hinder economic recovery.
"I think there is a certain logic to leaving well-enough alone for now, given the fragility of the economic recovery," said Rep. Gerry Connolly (D., Va.). " It's a question of prudent judgment and timing."
White House officials are preparing to unveil their 10-year budget plan on Feb. 2, which will include a decision on what to do about the pending expiration of tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush.


So far so good....
 
"Big Oil giant Exxon Mobil, which last year reported a record $45.2 billion profit, paid the most taxes of any corporation, but none of it went to the IRS:

Exxon tries to limit the tax pain with the help of 20 wholly owned subsidiaries domiciled in the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands that (legally) shelter the cash flow from operations in the likes of Angola, Azerbaijan and Abu Dhabi. No wonder that of $15 billion in income taxes last year, Exxon paid none of it to Uncle Sam, and has tens of billions in earnings permanently reinvested overseas."

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/06/exxon-tax/

Where's your outrage?
If we're gonna go after taxes lets go after the big bucks! Oh I forgot, Republicons get lots of $ from Exxon.

Exxon has not, to my knowledge, broken any tax laws. The laws were written and passed by our gov't. The same laws were not removed by any administration, republican or democrat. So Exxon is simply doing all it can to maximize profits for its shareholders. Whether you like it or not, that is the purpose of a corporation.
 
I belive Exxon should be taxed and taxed big. I also belive we should move away from income tax and have an inheritance tax and some other taxes... but I am still proud to pay what our elected officials have said I owe.

And who do you imagine would pay these "big taxes" you wish to see levied against Exxon?

Do you think the corporation would share your idea that it is their patriotic duty to pay more taxes and pay their shareholders less? Of course they wouldn't.

Taxes against a business is considered a cost of doing business. It is figured into the cost of producing and selling a product.

And what happens when the cost of producing a product goes up? You got it, the price of the product goes up.

Businesses do not pay taxes. Consumers pay taxes.
 
I like your answer just fine. I wasn't aware you wre demanding a response.

I even agree with you on the progressive tax aspect.

So what?

The IRS and the courts take a dim view of folks who avoid paying taxes, so I pay 'em, just as I suppose you do.

The difference is I don't whine about "fairness" like a playground weakling.
Hardly a whine; I'm simply pointing out the unfairness of the progressive system and the Constitutional basis for my findings. You're the one going on about it, insinuating that I should perform some oddball protest.
 
Hardly a whine; I'm simply pointing out the unfairness of the progressive system and the Constitutional basis for my findings. You're the one going on about it, insinuating that I should perform some oddball protest.

Which, I must add, considering that the progressive tax is sold exclusively on the basis of "fairness," any incidence of unfairness is kind of a big deal.
 
if patriotism is defined as paying your taxes, why did our ancestors break away from england? and when you answer that question, why are you proud to be born here?
You idiot. Go read your history books. Preferably ones not written by the michigan militia. Our founding fathers broke with England over taxation because the colonies were not recieving adequate representation in parliament. Remember the phrase, no taxation without representation?
 
so when a majority of the american people tell their representatives that they don't want a certain piece of legislation passed, yet they do anyway, is that still representation or not?
Yes. There not there to be your bot. If you don't like their representation there's these things called elections and voting. You should try it some time.
 
Yes. There not there to be your bot. If you don't like their representation there's these things called elections and voting. You should try it some time.

mott, i'll refrain from the insults, because sometimes I actually do respect your opinions, but you are wrong. those elections are held to appoint people to do our will. when those people we elect forget who sent them there, yes it is our responsibility to remove them, but we damn sure don't have to live with their wrong headed ideas as well.
 
You idiot. Go read your history books. Preferably ones not written by the michigan militia. Our founding fathers broke with England over taxation because the colonies were not recieving adequate representation in parliament. Remember the phrase, no taxation without representation?

Would the local assemblies ever have voted to enact those taxes? Remember, the colonists alread paid waaaay less in taxes to the commonwealth than did subjects back in England, while maintaining a higher standard of living and having access to services such as military protection from French and Indians.
 
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