Question for fans of multiracialism

StoneByStone said:
I've asked this question a few times during discussions on this board and I never got an answer. Now I'm curious to see if anyone can answer it, so here goes.

Why does racial integration only happen when it's forced on people? I think most people prefer living around and associating with people of their own race. And that's the reason the government needs to force integration through affirmative action and anti-discrimination laws. If I'm wrong, and people don't have racial preferences, then what is the reason that multiracialism never just happens on its own? Why does it only happen through government force?
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Your premise is a fallacy; because it does happen on it's own.
 
Because they do not want to deal with people like the rightys who posted here searching for justification of their bigotry. They know when people don't like them and don't need to deal with it any more than they have to. After awhile the minorities will mix more with the whites who are not bigotted.
 
archives said:
Not at all, from what I have seen in the rest of America, I know I live in unique part of the country, and we're glad of it, but I've around enough to know everything isn't segregated as the post implies
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Again, what YOU see only matters in YOUR world. It doesn't apply to anyone but YOU no matter how hard you try to pretend you speak for the country as a whole.

If you live in an area that is multi-cultural, you live in a shithole.
 
StoneByStone said:
Before I was red-pilled on race, I noticed the same thing in my high school cafeteria. And there wasn't any racism there, no fights over racial issues or anything like that. We all just preferred to self-segregate.
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My high school cafeteria was like the one in the movie "Mean Girls." The segregation involved popular, non-popular, airheads, nerds, sports, band etc.
 
Multiracialism is damn near everywhere. Unless you want to outright say the color of their skin bugs you then it's multiculturism that irks you. Unfortunately for people like you that has been the American standard ideal since near the beginning.
 
Loving91390 said:
You must not be white ....
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Do you really think a person who goes to a black area will get killed? I go to Detroit to regularly and have never had trouble. I have played Racketball on Belle Isle for many years and never experienced anything.I go to Tiger games and Lion football. If I was killed, I must have missed it.
It must be tough to inhabit that scary world you live in. I go where I want and do not worry about it. I go to restaurants and bars where ever they are. I live in an about 40 percent Arab community. One neighbor is an Iraqi family. The family on the other side is black. They are just people.
 
christiefan915 said:
My high school cafeteria was like the one in the movie "Mean Girls." The segregation involved popular, non-popular, airheads, nerds, sports, band etc.
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There's some of that too. People self-segregate in lots of ways. There's also religion, ethnicity, politics, and so on. Though race is definitely the most enduring. Even within religious groups, there are groupings and interpretations based on race. And a lot of these sub-cultures have racial overtones. In my high school, the goths were white, the punks were white, there were white nerds and then there were Asian nerds.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I think your premise about it "being forced on people" is wrong, so there isn't much else to say about the rest of the statement. Yes, in some areas landlords and real estate agents had to be "encouraged" to rent or sell to non-whites. Why is that? Because the whites in the area believed that if they had non-white neighbors their property values would suffer. It used to be just fine to refuse to hire a person of color in favor of an equally-qualified white person, because of the racist and mistaken belief that non-whites are lazy, poorly-educated, and not intelligent.
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Those stereotypes are only for certain non-white races. One of the stereotypes about Jews and Asians is that they're very smart but they weren't welcomed into white neighborhoods either. And today there are considerably less white people who believe these stereotypes, yet we still need the anti-discrimination laws.
And, of course, it's not just white people who self-segregate, it's every race and ethnicity.


So far as I know, we have yet to see (for example) black ppl fleeing their neighborhood because some whites moved in down the street. Haven't seen Hispanics or Asians do that either, have you?
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They do if they can. Because black and brown people tend to be less well-off, it's harder for them to just pack up and move. However, they do complain about white people moving in under the guise of complaining about "gentrification." Sometimes they do this quite openly, saying that gentrification is a white thing.

At any rate, your premise is wrong. Many companies esp. those with public faces *want* to hire non-white, non-male employees to show that they celebrity diversity and aren't bigots.
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The fact that the media and academia have to push multiracialism through shame, guilt, and threat of ostracization is a whole other issue, but in the same category. Why does this need to happen? If multiracialism is natural, why not just step back and let it happen without either figurative or literal force?
Also worth mentioning is that when someone hires a non-white person for the reasons you mentioned, they're not happily engaging in multiracialism, they're just doing what they need to do to make money.
 
StoneByStone said:
Those stereotypes are only for certain non-white races. One of the stereotypes about Jews and Asians is that they're very smart but they weren't welcomed into white neighborhoods either. And today there are considerably less white people who believe these stereotypes, yet we still need the anti-discrimination laws. And, of course, it's not just white people who self-segregate, it's every race and ethnicity.
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There are still plenty of white people who would refuse to serve/rent to/hire/sell to ppl of other races and/or religions if they could get away with it. Humans who live in close proximity to each other do tend to prefer their "own kind" whether it's ethnicity, language, religion, nationality. No doubt there is some evolutionary reason for this; probably a survival trait left over from the time when a group of strangers could mean your group's death.

Most of us have managed to stifle that innate genetic trait and embrace a diverse world.

They do if they can. Because black and brown people tend to be less well-off, it's harder for them to just pack up and move. However, they do complain about white people moving in under the guise of complaining about "gentrification." Sometimes they do this quite openly, saying that gentrification is a white thing.
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And telling the truth about this is bad because.... ? Gentrification IS a "white thing" because which racial group is most likely to have the means to rehab an old building and sell it as condos? Unfortunately as this happens taxes and real estate prices rise, and pressure is put on long-time residents to sell out. Sometimes a developer with enough pull can get an area blighted so that he can get rid of the homeowners and make a mint on the properties.

The fact that the media and academia have to push multiracialism through shame, guilt, and threat of ostracization is a whole other issue, but in the same category. Why does this need to happen? If multiracialism is natural, why not just step back and let it happen without either figurative or literal force?
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How interesting that you are somehow made to feel guilty by outside forces. Why on Earth would you feel guilty because a particular racial group in the U.S. wasn't doing well? Why wouldn't you feel anger and sadness instead, and try to do something about it? Or is the guilt because you don't want to?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
There are still plenty of white people who would refuse to serve/rent to/hire/sell to ppl of other races and/or religions if they could get away with it. Humans who live in close proximity to each other do tend to prefer their "own kind" whether it's ethnicity, language, religion, nationality. No doubt there is some evolutionary reason for this; probably a survival trait left over from the time when a group of strangers could mean your group's death.

Most of us have managed to stifle that innate genetic trait and embrace a diverse world.



And telling the truth about this is bad because.... ? Gentrification IS a "white thing" because which racial group is most likely to have the means to rehab an old building and sell it as condos? Unfortunately as this happens taxes and real estate prices rise, and pressure is put on long-time residents to sell out. Sometimes a developer with enough pull can get an area blighted so that he can get rid of the homeowners and make a mint on the properties.



How interesting that you are somehow made to feel guilty by outside forces. Why on Earth would you feel guilty because a particular racial group in the U.S. wasn't doing well? Why wouldn't you feel anger and sadness instead, and try to do something about it? Or is the guilt because you don't want to?
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Gentrification isn't caused by developers, it's caused by people. People, often young and educated, who typically move into older and more run down urban areas and through their efforts improve the area over time. Yes, a developer can by a building in a run down area and fix it up but that doesn't cause gentrification. It takes much more than that.
 
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