Question for Gun-Cravens: Why Render Law-Abiding Citizens Defenseless?

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read it and discover how wrong you are.

You do know you are citing a source which is a facade for the Crime Prevention Research Center, another source funded by the gun manufacturers, correct?

Like asking the Fox what he would recommend to protect the chicken coop
 
You do know you are citing a source which is a facade for the Crime Prevention Research Center, another source funded by the gun manufacturers, correct?

Like asking the Fox what he would recommend to protect the chicken coop

every single FACT that is in that publication is backed by real evidence. It completely debunks every anti gun myth you anti freedom fucks like to purvey
 
every single FACT that is in that publication is backed by real evidence. It completely debunks every anti gun myth you anti freedom fucks like to purvey

Right, “evidence” provided by the Crime Prevention Research Center, aka, gun manufacturers, are you really that naive?
 
Right, “evidence” provided by the Crime Prevention Research Center, aka, gun manufacturers, are you really that naive?

that and the founding fathers comments clearly show i'm in the right and you're not. the 'evidence' you're dismissing is from numerous sources, some law enforcement, some gov entities, some with no objective other than truth.

whereas YOUR evidence..........well, are you really that naive?
 
that and the founding fathers comments clearly show i'm in the right and you're not. the 'evidence' you're dismissing is from numerous sources, some law enforcement, some gov entities, some with no objective other than truth.

whereas YOUR evidence..........well, are you really that naive?

I guess you are

All the gun manufacturers propaganda you are swallowing is based upon cherry picking and reframing facts, even the quotes from the Founding Fathers, you do understand what it means to frame facts, correct?

As I said, it is similar to the Fox recommending how to protect the chicken coup, and your listening to him
 
I guess you are

All the gun manufacturers propaganda you are swallowing is based upon cherry picking and reframing facts, even the quotes from the Founding Fathers, you do understand what it means to frame facts, correct?

As I said, it is similar to the Fox recommending how to protect the chicken coup, and your listening to him

ROFL. do we need to post those 'cherry picked' comments again? those that SPECIFICALLY refer to the 2nd Amendment as an INDIVIDUAL right????? or will you studiously ignore those pesky facts that don't fit your narrative and agenda?
 
ROFL. do we need to post those 'cherry picked' comments again? those that SPECIFICALLY refer to the 2nd Amendment as an INDIVIDUAL right????? or will you studiously ignore those pesky facts that don't fit your narrative and agenda?

Little history lesson for you, the Founding Fathers were prolific authors, all of them wrote nearly their entire life, and often even criticized and reversed positions they held at different times of their lives. With that much production, it is easy to find a quote or two to support nearly any position you want to believe, and, many of the quotes provided in the gun manufacturers propaganda you swallow have been proven to be bogus
 
Little history lesson for you, the Founding Fathers were prolific authors, all of them wrote nearly their entire life, and often even criticized and reversed positions they held at different times of their lives. With that much production, it is easy to find a quote or two to support nearly any position you want to believe, and, many of the quotes provided in the gun manufacturers propaganda you swallow have been proven to be bogus

but it's MORE than just a quote or two. Little history lesson for you......the founding fathers had years of experience dealing with a tyrannical monarch. KNEW that a standing army was a bane to liberty. Had centuries of knowledge about the same. Then, they wrote a declaration and KNEW that the easiest way for the monarchy to force upon them the kings rule was to take their arms and powder. To prevent that, 'shall not be infringed' was written and ratified. and no, not MANY have been proven bogus, only one that i'm aware of. Not to mention that there were many state and federal cases before Heller that specifically denoted that the 2nd Amendment protected an individual right. many presidents in the past have said that. The 1982 US Senate commission confirms that very thing.
 
You do know you are citing a source which is a facade for the Crime Prevention Research Center, another source funded by the gun manufacturers, correct?

Like asking the Fox what he would recommend to protect the chicken coop

That is why I did not respond to it. The Gun manufacturers have made up stats that gun lovers wait for and use. More guns =more deaths. Kids getting killed in school is worth the gun lovers having military weapons. Weapons designed to spray bullets and kill many people in a short time must be enough fun that the deaths do not matter. We are terrifying our children. And gun-lovers simply do not care. https://www.tiktok.com/@kaitlmcb3zn/video/7215740854714125614
We have more gun deaths and more mass shootings year after year. We have children going through active shooter drills and the fears of getting shot up so rightys can have terrible weapons.
We need to get rid of guns.
 
The Revolution is removing our right to self defense wholesale. This is about the WOKE being anti-human and removing all individual rights.
 
The Revolution is removing our right to self defense wholesale. This is about the WOKE being anti-human and removing all individual rights.

You should be happy if we take all the guns. You would require almost no self-defense. Your kids could go to school without active shooter drills and many schools becoming war zones. Bars would be safer. Malls and theaters would be safer. You would not have to be armed like Rambo to walk whatever terrifying streets you walk.
 
Defenseless my ass. How is limiting one type out of hundreds going to make you defenseless? What, you don't think you're safe enough with a shotgun or a glock?

You don't get to infringe on any weapon by type, manufacturer, color, size of magazine, type of action, or how 'scary' it looks.
You don't get to define what is 'safe enough'.

It is unconstitutional to pass any law that infringes on the right of the people to keep and bear arms (ANY kind of arms), or to infringe on the right of a State to organize a militia.
 
The poorly written 2nd Amendment encourages the gun nuts to think that they're entitled to assault rifles
in addition to the sporting arms which are perfectly adequate for self-defense as well.
There is no such thing as an 'assault rifle'. It is unconstitutional to pass any law that infringes on the right to keep and bear arms. The 2nd amendment does NOT list any gun by type, manufacturer, type of action, size of magazine, how fast it shoots, color, or how 'scary' it looks. It does not define what is a 'sporting' weapon or that people are limited to a 'sporting' weapon.

It is not poorly written. The right to self defense is inherent.
The fucking morons had to mention "militias" instead of just stating that citizens are entitled to bear arms.
The 2nd Amendment mentions militias because it is ALSO unconstitutional to infringe on the right of a State to organize a militia. The right of self defense is inherent.
Yes, the people that you "true believers" mentally fellate were in fact fucking morons.
Even morons have the right to keep and bear arms.
Now the reichnuts believe that they're entitled to form militias to overthrow legally, legitimately elected governments.
State governments have the right to organize a militia. They ARE the government.
We have legal ways to effect change already.
You may discard the Constitution, but that does not make it go away.
We need a totally inclusive purge of every idiot who thinks this way.
National security requires that not a single one of those fuckwits is still breathing.

Humane treatment is for humans and other benign creatures.
Devolved and dangerous mutants aren't entitled to humane treatment.
They're entitled only to extinction by the most expedient means available..
Too many members of my own Democratic party are pantywaists unwilling to face this fact.
So...genocide, eh? Do you seriously think you can get away with this without getting shot?
School children are murdered as a result, and constitution lovers are directly responsible.
No. Murderers are directly responsible. Democrats are directly responsible for create 'gun free' zones, encouraging such crime. They don't work.
The intelligent among us recognize the fatal flaws of our constitution.
None.
It's an anchor around the neck of our republic.
A republic is government by law (a constitution). That constitution is created by the people and ordained by the people to power. A republic cannot exist without it.
 
You say the stupidest shit. Your stupid premise that law abiding gun owners are being denied guns is a typical lie from you. Gun-lust people have piles of weapons. They have the right to put their families in more danger.
Gun owners actually using a weapon to protect themselves is a very rare event. People misusing guns is a common occurrence. We have mass shootings at a level no other country has. That is because we have more guns. On a good day, you might be able to predict the future. More mass shootings, more accidental shootings, more suicides, and more young people dying from guns. That will please you. More guns = more gun deaths. https://rockinst.org/blog/more-guns...approach-to-reducing-gun-violence-in-america/

Paradox. Which is it, dude?
 
The US is in a league of its own!

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Where did all the others go wrong?

Cherry picking fallacy.
 
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