Question for our gun enthusiast friends.

[Into the Night]

The original meaning was in the context of the militia. That’s clear. How did Heller restore that?

WRONG. The 2nd discusses TWO rights, not one. The right of a State to have a militia for self defense, and the right of the people to carry arms for self defense.

 

[Into the Night]

They sure have. In colonial times, they were not allowed to be discharged in the cities. That’s a regulated use.

There were allowed to be discharged in the cities or anywhere else.

 

[Into the Night]

Sonny boy, my degree is from a world class university. Yet, you are homeschooled

Irrelevant. You obviously learned nothing from your school.

 

[Into the Night]

The original intent was that all citizens should be familiar with the use of guns so that they would be better suited to service in a militia. Open carry was the standard of the day. You, as usual, haven't a clue.

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Militias typically had arms of their own, issued by the State that organized the militia. Many States still have active militias. The militias have NOTHING to do with the personal right to self defense or the right to carry arms.

 

[Into the Night]

Another lie. The colonials did not walk around with their guns everywhere they went.

Some did. Others didn't bother to, but they still had guns. Others didn't bother with guns. Just like today.

 

[Into the Night]

My personal knowledge, observations and experiences. Three things you lack.

Your personal knowledge is extremely limited. I'm glad he doesn't share that fault of yours.
Your observations are subject to the problems of phenomenology, just like the observations of everyone. Everyone observes the same thing differently. No one will ever share your observations.
Your experience is non-existent concerning guns. I'm glad he doesn't share your limited experience.

 

[Into the Night]

I did debunk it, that's when you started sperging out.



I didn't start name-calling, you did. And I didn't even sink to your level, I just left the discussion.

Lie.

 

[Into the Night]

You were there?

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Diaries and other records from the time indicate that people carried guns around pretty much like they do today. Some always carried, some carried part of the time, some didn't even own guns.

 

[Into the Night]

lol
What a fucking moron.

Insult fallacy.

lol
Most were farmers,

Irrelevance fallacy.

lol
idiot.

Insult fallacy.

lol
Hard to farm with a musket over your shoulder.

Yet some did.

lol
Do you think the city dwellers packed all the time?

Some did, just like today.

lol
You are the biggest fool on the forum, homeschool

Insult fallacy. False authority fallacy. Paradox. You said I was the biggest fool on the forum. Who is it, dude?

 

[Into the Night]

This was the original language by Madison. Have a literate person explain itvto you homeschool.

“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.”

That is not the 2nd amendment. Irrelevance fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

It’s obvious that neither one of you idiots have a grasp of English.

Were you both homeschooled?

Irrelevance fallacy. Insult fallacy. No argument presented. Trolling.

 

[Into the Night]

False assumption of cause and effect.

A correlation is not to be ignored as a possible cause and effect, dude. Argument of the stone fallacy. Fallacy fallacy.

Same shit the Bible thumpers use. That schools declined when they stopped reading the Bible

Irrelevance fallacy.

Homeschool fucks you up that way.

Irrelevance fallacy. Compositional error fallacy involving people as the class...bigotry.

 

[Into the Night]

Asked and answered, stupid shit

Lie.

 

[Into the Night]

When I was 20, you weren’t even born yet. That means, in English, dumbfuck, that I’ve been around the block. Yet, here you are, a mindless homeschooled punk.

Presentism fallacy. Void argument fallacy. Bigotry.

 

[StoneByStone]

Lie.

You weren't even here at the time.

 

[StoneByStone]

Can't handle it when it isn't you doing the name calling?

I don't name-call. I find flame wars to be rather boring.

 

[Into the Night]

You weren't even here at the time.

Assumption. You have no idea of my age.

You seem to have lost context here too. Done here.

 

[StoneByStone]

A guess based upon complete ignorance. Typical.

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Not ignorance at all. Shorter magazines force more load times, which gives more people a chance to escape, as well as gives cops a chance to stop the shooter.

 

[StoneByStone]

Note that the violent crime rate was dropping before the 'ban' and continued to drop at the same rate after the 'ban', which wasn't a ban. So, no evidence that the NFA had any effect at all.

What about how there were less mass shootings after?

 

[StoneByStone]

Assumption. You have no idea of my age.

You seem to have lost context here too. Done here.

I mean you weren't on the forum.