Real 3rd Party Scare.

PostmodernProphet said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Reagan was President during the S&L scandal, genius. You know, the god of the right wing? The creator of "reaganomics" that's served the country so well with it's deregulation dogma? The policies that were continued by Daddy Bush and his idiot son The Shrub? Didn't Daddy Bush bitch about "voodoo economics" but carried on the same policies (remember the lie about "no new taxes"?).

What's truly pathetic is how proudly ignorant you are about recent history, and how you foolishly think your revisionist clap trap passes for historical facts. You're not delusional, just a willfully ignorant and intellectually dishonest 3rd rate right wing propagandist. I can document what I say, can you? If not, go blow smoke somewhere else, as you waste time and space doubling down on your BS.
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so you admit your comment was irrelevant to the post you responded to......."Gore lost, Bush won.....Nader had nothing to do with it"......
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What drug are you on (or off) that makes you think trying to rewrite the conclusion of what I post will actually fool or convince anyone that you weren't proven flat out wrong?

You're not THAT stupid, just intellectually impotent and insipidly stubborn. No sense in wasting more time on you. See ya in a month or so, toodles.
 
AssHatZombie said:
see, even libs know franks an asshole.
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don't include me in your range wars. I took YOU off the ignore list because I had two threads that needed honest discussion and different views. As long as you stay rational with me, you're on the thread. What you do with others outside the topic is of little concern.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
yeah, Frank....you can babble your BS rather than just concede to the facts. Nader got zero electoral votes.....last time I checked, that negates the popular vote. 0.71% of the popular vote was not a game changer....especially given the BS the GOP pulled in Florida (with help from the SCOTUS).

So if you want to keep shoveling that BS that Nader cost Gore the election, be my guest. The FACTS tell a different story, one where the RNC and the DNC conspired to keep the man from a debate that he was legally entitled to....something that has been officially acknowledged, as my previous link showed.

That you can't muster the cojones to just concede a matter of fact & history because it counters your beliefs makes you no better than our resident right wing wonks in this one respect. A pity, Frank, as I expected better from you. Carry on with your insipid stubbornness.
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You keep changing the argument so that you can argue against what YOU say I said...rather than what I ACTUALLY SAID.

I did not say that Nader cost Gore the election. I said that Nader impacted on the Gore vote; that he changed the dynamic of that election, and that the change was a significant factor in the loss. It was. That has been conceded by history.

If you cannot see that, you are simply being voluntarily blind.

I also said that Nader, and his "policies" did more damage to Nader than the Democrats or the Republicans. He was one of the worst politician I've seen during my lifetime...and being an effective politician is a HUGE part of getting elected. He had no chance whatever...except to negatively impact on the Democratic vote.

If you cannot muster the balls to concede that you have been screwing with the bar rather than actually debating what I said...that is your problem.
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You're first sentence is a LIE, and the chronology of the posts proves that. When all is said and done, the bottom line of all your assertions is that Nader cost Gore the election.

I flat out proved with FACTS that is NOT true....it never was. It's a convenient lie that the Democratic wonks have been circle jerking around to compensate for the FACT that Gore did not fight hard and long enough to prove he won that election. He caved. He didn't have to....no one was going anywhere and he was well within his legal rights.

Your opinion of Nader is just that....your opinion. I don't care if you didn't like the man's platform....he was the ONLY candidate with 30 years of public service who was NOT beholden to any political party or special interest (campaign donors). IHHO, the general public didn't have the courage to support that.

Sorry Frank, but your lame attempt to turn the tables on this one failed miserably...the objective, rational reader sees this. You can regurgitate your stance six ways to Sunday, but the result will be the same. I leave you to the last predictable word on this...Carry on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
You're first sentence is a LIE, and the chronology of the posts proves that. When all is said and done, the bottom line of all your assertions is that Nader cost Gore the election.
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Horseshit. I said that Nader had an impact. But all you have is bullshit, so use it. I'm just laughing at you.

I flat out proved with FACTS that is NOT true....it never was. It's a convenient lie that the Democratic wonks have been circle jerking around to compensate for the FACT that Gore did not fight hard and long enough to prove he won that election. He caved. He didn't have to....no one was going anywhere and he was well within his legal rights.
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Nader was a jerkoff...and so are the people who supported him.

Your opinion of Nader is just that....your opinion. I don't care if you didn't like the man's platform....he was the ONLY candidate with 30 years of public service who was NOT beholden to any political party or special interest (campaign donors). IHHO, the general public didn't have the courage to support that.
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Nader was a jerkoff without a chance of winning anything. And the people who thought he could are also jerkoffs.

Sorry Frank, but your lame attempt to turn the tables on this one failed miserably...the objective, rational reader sees this. You can regurgitate your stance six ways to Sunday, but the result will be the same. I leave you to the last predictable word on this...Carry on.
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Nader could not carry anything...and all he and his supporters did was to impact negatively on Gore.

But apparently your fantasy about the issue prevails with you. Enjoy it. See if you can get a date with Red Riding Hood while you are at it.
 
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