Into the Night
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Fascism raises it's ugly head once again.
Reality check on electric cars
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Fascism raises it's ugly head once again.
What the hell does that have to do with anything? Lyingfish, you should visit GMs electric cars of a century later when the EV1 was made. The car was extremely successful. GM ended it because it did not meet the profit per vehicle rate they wanted. They leased all they made.
Here, I helped you.
I knew you would not understand. It was an experiment. They did not have the manufacturing buildup to mass produce. It was an experiment, an early one. It was very popular and there was a hue and cry when GM ended it. The owners wanted another one. GM had no intention of mass producing at that time.
GM was getting ready for the future, unlike you.
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Business Insider
Toyota's CEO isn't fully sold on electric cars — and he says a 'silent majority is on his side
"Toyota boss Akio Toyoda has long said that electric cars aren't the only way forward for the auto industry.
He said a "silent majority" in the auto business agrees with him.
Lots of car companies are racing to electrify their lineups. Toyota isn't moving as quickly."
Toyota's CEO isn't fully sold on electric cars — and he says a 'silent majority is on his side
"Toyota boss Akio Toyoda has long said that electric cars aren't the only way forward for the auto industry.
He said a "silent majority" in the auto business agrees with him.
Lots of car companies are racing to electrify their lineups. Toyota isn't moving as quickly."
YOU don't understand, This administration has doen everything it can to destroy this country's ability to produce mass cheap electricity. We have a capacity problem you buffoon.
T. A. Gardner
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No, it wasn't. It was popular with a tiny niche market. GM's own CEO said that GM could afford to sell those cars at a loss because they could make up that loss selling ICE vehicles representing something like 95%+ of their market. He pointed out that was one way GM could easily undercut a company like Tesla on price.
Of course, now, the government is heavily into the automotive market making ICE vehicles uncompetitive by regulation, if not outright banning them in the near future. Instead of the market deciding what works and doesn't, morons, idiots, ideologues, and other assorted dumbfucks in government are making the decisions. Worse, as usual, those decisions are costly, stupid, and wrong.
Into the Night
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Into the Night
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How typical of the mindlessness of AOC.
Into the Night
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You are now locked in paradox. You are being irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.
Not at all. The EV1 was a great success in the way the people accepted it. It also was the prototype. GM never forgot it and when they did the Volt, they were the mainstay of EVs.They are why EVs are so accepted by intelligent caring people today.
Into the Night
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Paradox. You must clear your paradox. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.
There was a hue and cry when GM ended the program. They sold every one they made. That is successful. Many people were hitting the news asking where they could get one before the program ended. That is a success. GM also learned a few things about EVs. That was their real intent.
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Saint Guinefort
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LOL. Are you ever right about ANYTHING?
pretty much everything. GM used a lease plan and they leased every one they offered. When they ended it, they took them back and the owners fought GM to keep them. https://www.hagerty.com/media/automotive-history/gm-ev1-true-inside-story/ Rightys create their own reality. I will not participate in that. I cannot delude myself as you people can.
Into the Night
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Paradox. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox. You must clear your paradox.
Into the Night
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Bulverism fallacy.
Saint Guinefort
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This literally has NOTHING whatsoever to do with Bulverism. You just want people to think you are smarter than you are. You are just a whiny little moron with a big sense of yourself.
And the question still stands: Are you ever right about ANYTHING?
The EV1 was only ever leased (so you can't really say anything about it's mass market appeal) but among those who used them they were RIDICULOUSLY popular. It even spawned a documentary about their disappearance ("Who Killed the Electric Car")
God you are so fucking uninformed about ANYTHING it's not even amusing at this point. And then you go on your stupid rampage of informal logic fallacies that almost NEVER comport with the topic at hand.
Gah!
T. A. Gardner
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GM built all of 1117 EV 1's. That's literally nothing in terms of total car production in the US alone. That they were popular with the people leasing them is meaningless.
According to a poll from Consumer Reports conducted between Jan. 27 to Feb. 18, a large majority of Americans stopped short of saying they would “definitely” buy or lease an electric vehicle if they were purchasing a vehicle today. Overall, 14 percent of the 8,027 respondents said they would “definitely” buy or lease an electric vehicle. Another 22 percent said they would “seriously consider it.”
Meanwhile, 35 percent said they might consider buying or leasing an electric vehicle in the future, but not if they were buying a car today. Finally, 28 percent said they would not consider buying an electric vehicle.
This means a total of 63 percent of Americans said they would not consider buying or leasing an electric car if they were looking for a vehicle today.
https://www.westernjournal.com/poll...on-preventing-americans-buying-electric-cars/
As I stated earlier, the ONLY reason EV's are gaining traction in the market is because of government intervention. Without government mandating / forcing people to buy them and handing out huge incentives and subsidies to bribe buyers, EV's would have remained a tiny niche market just as they always have.