Reality check on electric cars

Into the Night said:
No, you cannot clear your paradox by denying it.
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You cannot win by repetitive lying, but you try. You are all wrong about EVs and those who own them are trying to teach you what it is like. You do not learn quickly. You gave your fingernails deep into lies and will not let go.
 
Nordberg said:
You cannot win by repetitive lying, but you try. You are all wrong about EVs and those who own them are trying to teach you what it is like. You do not learn quickly. You gave your fingernails deep into lies and will not let go.
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No, you cannot clear your paradox by denying it.
 
Into the Night said:
The paradox is YOURS. You can't blame YOUR problem on me or anyone else.
No, you cannot clear your paradox by denying it. Apparently you would rather try to defend your irrationality.
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You should replace one of your birds with a parrot. You are such a simple person just repeat and repeat. You long ago stopped talking EVs. now you are just deflecting and deflecting. You think insults and name calling is debate. How sad.
 
Nordberg said:
You should replace one of your birds with a parrot. You are such a simple person just repeat and repeat. You long ago stopped talking EVs. now you are just deflecting and deflecting. You think insults and name calling is debate. How sad.
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A macaw IS a parrot, dumbass. Denying your paradoxes does not make them go away. You are just insisting on remaining irrational.

My position on EVs is unchanged:

They are expensive.
They take too long to charge.
They require expensive maintenance.
They require large amount of diminishing and non-renewable supplies of lithium.
They are heavy and cannot handle as large a payload for the same distance as ICE vehicles.
They only sell because of government interference like mandates and subsidies (fascism and communism).
They do not 'save the planet'. Most power plants charging these cars are using coal, oil, or natural gas. The EV 'tailpipe' is just remote. Energy losses during generation and transmission of power results in using almost twice the energy to travel the same distance as an ICE vehicle of similar size and weight traveling the same distance.
 
Add in inflexible in rural areas where charging points are scarce,
Complex in design,
In mass quantities will require the electric grid to be massively expanded at a cost of trillions,
Will require far more electrical generation capacity be installed at a cost of trillions,
If fossil fuel use drops to a small percentage of current everything else using oil based chemicals will see massive increases in price,
Use a non-portable energy source,
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Add in inflexible in rural areas where charging points are scarce,
Complex in design,
In mass quantities will require the electric grid to be massively expanded at a cost of trillions,
Will require far more electrical generation capacity be installed at a cost of trillions,
If fossil fuel use drops to a small percentage of current everything else using oil based chemicals will see massive increases in price,
Use a non-portable energy source,
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I assume by your use of the phrase 'fossil fuel' you mean gasoline and diesel fuel.
 
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Into the Night said:
No need for such a long winded phrase either. You could just say 'oil', 'gasoline' or even 'fuel'.
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But oil, gasoline, and "fuel" are things derived from the crude product, not the crude product. Besides, sometimes poking the live fish flopping around on the pier after you caught it is entertaining...

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See, there's redeeming value in that at the expense of radical Leftists who get all butthurt over their verbal smackdown...
 
Into the Night said:
The past is not the future. Get your tenses right.
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The fact that electric cars were tried out in the late 19th century is totally and completely and utterly irrelevant. You are playing again. The EVs that we are building now, are divorced from those ancient vehicles. In an honest moment, I hope you have such things, you would admit there is nothing in those ancient vehicles that matters at all to today's EVs.
 
Nordberg said:
The fact that electric cars were tried out in the late 19th century is totally and completely and utterly irrelevant. You are playing again. The EVs that we are building now, are divorced from those ancient vehicles. In an honest moment, I hope you have such things, you would admit there is nothing in those ancient vehicles that matters at all to today's EVs.
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They've been tried and rejected repeatedly ever since. There's a reason for that...

The only thing that has gotten them any traction this time is government bribes (aka subsidies) and diktat where they are giving people no alternatives to them.
 
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