Reality check on electric cars

200 miles a day will suit nearly everyone in the country. Some EVs are getting more. The fact is the charging gets faster and the range gets longer. Who knows how much better it will get next?

How much higher will household electric bills become from charging your car every night?
 
How much higher will household electric bills become from charging your car every night?

The difference is far, far cheaper than buying gas. This is a point that has never been in dispute. If you were driving an EV, you would be saving a lot of money.
 
The difference is far, far cheaper than buying gas. This is a point that has never been in dispute. If you were driving an EV, you would be saving a lot of money.

That's ok. I'll pay for the convenience of only having to "plug it in" once every 400 miles for 5 minutes.
 
Road maintenance is paid for by the gas tax. EVs get around that tax yet they still want us to pay for charging station infrastructure.
 
Too funny. You sought out a meme that validates your prior statements, and you have no idea that it is erroneous. You actually think that memes are textbooks! Way too funny.


Nope. You are a moron. The reason you never call boooolsch't when you should is because you never have any clue when you should. Hilarious.


It's combustable. Why do you think anything burns?

... and you claim to be a scientist! ... with many years of experience! Let me catch my breath!

Google is your friend, coal is made up of hydrocarbons and you are an ignoramous.
 
Actually, coal is hydrogen poor and carbon rich. It is more closely associated with charcoal than oil.

https://purdue.edu/discoverypark/en...4929705428518&lang=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE8

Actually, you are as big an idiot as the last guy who tried to claim coal was not a hydrocarbon. The fact that coal is made up of hydrogen and carbon and yes it is carbon rich and hydrogen poor but it is still classified as a hydrocarbon. Just as natural gas is hydrogen rich and carbon poor and still a hydrocarbon. Coal contains varying amounts of carbon and hydrogen with impurities Oxygen, Nitrogen and Sulfur. Charcoal is practically 100% carbon and quite different than coal. Coal is formed over millions of years whereas charcoal is a manufactured product.
 
You plug it in at night.
... and fall asleep because it takes so damn long to refuel.

It takes 1o seconds.
To plug in the charger? Yes.

You wake up to a full charge.
Depends.

If you plug a Chevy Bolt into a standard electrical outlet after you get home from work, then you would wake up the next morning to maybe 50 miles of range. If you used up more "range" than that the prior day, then you're not waking up to a full charge the next morning.

If you plug a Chevy Bolt into a "Level 2" (240V) charging system, then you will wake up to a full charge unless you started charging from near empty and didn't allow for the almost 10 hours that it takes to charge it back to full again.

"Level 3" speeds are irrelevant because that's only available publically.

It i the smallest fueling commitment possible.
Nah. Hours upon hours of time is much more of a commitment than a handful of minutes.
 
These are just the top 6 google hits on the pace of rapid promising rapid charges breakthru's being chased by mass amounts of big money VC investments.

These are not articles on the same advancement and are instead 6 completely new potentially paths, that have shown to work in early testing and that are moving to prove they can function at scale.

Battery Scientists Claim Breakthrough, 10-Minute Fast Charging For 1,500 Cycles
Researchers at a Tennessee lab developed a new electrolyte for ultra-fast charging.

New breakthrough brings batteries that charge in five minutes
Innovation could help remove ‘range anxiety’, and let electric vehicles charge incredibly quickly


EV Fast-Charging Breakthrough? China's New Battery Gets 250 Miles in 10 Minutes
With partners like Tesla, Hyundai, Honda, and Ford, a new battery from CATL could mean EV drivers can power up almost as quickly as filling up a gas tank




Derps like Terry will try to argue that this technology is locked in time and what you have today will be all there will be in the future and they know better than the scientists and VC who are spending enormous resources pursuing this. But history tells us people like Terry are wrong. Oh and stupid. Almost all, if not all, big moves to mass commercializations, are parallel with equally massive technology and efficiency breakthroughs. ICe vehicles were not locked in pre Ford 'Mass Production Line' efficiency models, and the early cell phones and the roll out of the internet were not locked to Version 1.

Smart betting money says todays ICE, a mature technology with very few big improvements being pursued, will simply not be competitive, by any measure, to EV technology as it realizes the coming advancements.
 
These are just the top 6 google hits on the pace of rapid promising rapid charges breakthru's being chased by mass amounts of big money VC investments.

These are not articles on the same advancement and are instead 6 completely new potentially paths, that have shown to work in early testing and that are moving to prove they can function at scale.














Derps like Terry will try to argue that this technology is locked in time and what you have today will be all there will be in the future and they know better than the scientists and VC who are spending enormous resources pursuing this. But history tells us people like Terry are wrong. Oh and stupid. Almost all, if not all, big moves to mass commercializations, are parallel with equally massive technology and efficiency breakthroughs. ICe vehicles were not locked in pre Ford 'Mass Production Line' efficiency models, and the early cell phones and the roll out of the internet were not locked to Version 1.

Smart betting money says todays ICE, a mature technology with very few big improvements being pursued, will simply not be competitive, by any measure, to EV technology as it realizes the coming advancements.

That ain't nothin' but dreams, Bubba. You probably have no clue how Tesla/other EV batteries are made and how much they weigh and long they take to charge.
 
I'd think she has other things to say about it. Besides, she likes riding in it :)

I'll settle for just the shotgun! :awesome:

She looks pretty high maintenance anyhow. :laugh:

I'll make her a deal: I'll carry her to the car so she doesn't break an ankle trying to walk in those boots for the shotgun! :laugh:
 
Fantasy is not reality.

Yes this is the Terry argument.

All technology is frozen in time and advancements being pursued are just 'fantasy' or as Terry said 'wish casting'.

We are to think all these top scientists and the VC are just foolish, and you magat derps, know better.

the fact is such advancements are far more the norm, than the exception.

If we listen to you and Terry we never believe the ICE vehicle can advance beyond the early 1900's. The Cell phone beyond its 90's mass adoption. The internet from copper to fibre optics.

You guys would say all views on improvements are just 'fantasy' or 'wish casting'.

But that is the Magat view. R&D, and successful lab testing are not relevant to them as they ONLY look at the past, not the future. It is the core premise of MAGA. Only looking back.
 
Yes this is the Terry argument.

All technology is frozen in time and advancements being pursued are just 'fantasy' or as Terry said 'wish casting'.

We are to think all these top scientists and the VC are just foolish, and you magat derps, know better.

the fact is such advancements are far more the norm, than the exception.

If we listen to you and Terry we never believe the ICE vehicle can advance beyond the early 1900's. The Cell phone beyond its 90's mass adoption. The internet from copper to fibre optics.

You guys would say all views on improvements are just 'fantasy' or 'wish casting'.

But that is the Magat view. R&D, and successful lab testing are not relevant to them as they ONLY look at the past, not the future. It is the core premise of MAGA. Only looking back.

You can't eat or drive Hopium, brah.
 
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