Religions are mostly wrong

Cypress said:
For sure, I am sure lots of people have heard of the word entropy.
Entropy is not a concept that an adult who is interested in science, and reads science journalism needs to google.

A geochem PhD should have understood that entropy is not a rare and exotic word only available to Frantic Googlers.
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I NEVER SAID ENTROPY WAS EXOTIC OR A PROBLEM IN THIS DISCUSSION YOU DISHONEST TROLL. I SAID THAT YOU CLEARLY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT FREEZING POINT DEPRESSION AND YOU CLEARLY HAD TO GOOGLE IT BECAUSE YOU WENT STRAIGHT TO ENTROPY WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO CLAIMED TO NOT PAY MUCH ATTENTION IN HIGH SCHOOL CHEMISTRY WOULD HAVE DONE WITHOUT GOOGLING.

God damn, I wish you'd be honest at some point in this conversation.

WHY DO YOU LIE SO MUCH?????????????????????
 
Uhtceare said:
I NEVER SAID ENTROPY WAS EXOTIC OR A PROBLEM IN THIS DISCUSSION YOU DISHONEST TROLL. I SAID THAT YOU CLEARLY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT FREEZING POINT DEPRESSION AND YOU CLEARLY HAD TO GOOGLE IT BECAUSE YOU WENT STRAIGHT TO ENTROPY WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO CLAIMED TO NOT PAY MUCH ATTENTION IN HIGH SCHOOL CHEMISTRY WOULD HAVE DONE WITHOUT GOOGLING.

God damn, I wish you'd be honest at some point in this conversation.

WHY DO YOU LIE SO MUCH?????????????????????
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Banging on your keyboard in all caps huge font red letters is an unmistakable sign of rage.

I rarely google, and acknowledge it when I do


On the other hand, when you were posting as Perry PhD, you surreptitiously copied the word choices and exact syntax of the Wikipedia entry on atomic orbitals, without giving attribution -->

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?200823-JPP-Experts&p=5544100#post5544100
 
Cypress said:
Banging on your keyboard in all caps huge font red letters is an unmistakable sign of rage.

I rarely google, and acknowledge it when I do


On the other hand, when you were posting as Perry PhD, you surreptitiously copied the word choices and exact syntax of the Wikipedia entry on atomic orbitals, without giving attribution -->
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THe funniest part about this whole debate is you claimed Enceladus couldn't be that cold because water can't exist as a liquid below 0degC. Something YOU SAID. Which means either:

1. YOU THINK ENCELADUS ONLY HAS DEIONIZED WATER
or
2. YOU DIDN"T KNOW ABOUT FREEZING POINT DEPRESSION

Which is it?

Go ahead, avoid the question. Because you KNOW you said it.

Cypress said:
Liquid water can't exist in that phase below 0 C, so it can't be that cold.
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WHICH IS IT?
 
Cypress said:
Speaking of lying]
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Here's graphic evidence of how I know you lied about googling Freezing Point Depression. I still have one of the texts I used teaching chemistry. This is the 10th Edition of Brown, Lemay and Bursten, "Chemistry the Central Science". A pretty standard issue intro chemistry textbook. Probably not unlike what you had for high school chemistry.

Note how they describe "Freezing Point Depression" yet never mention "entropy". I'm not denying the role of entropy but it sure does look like you, who claimed to not pay much attention in high school chemistry, must have googled something. Because it simply isn't commonly taught in intro chemistry classes that way.

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You are free to continue the lie as you like, I understand your ego is tied up in sounding smarter than you are. But be aware that some of us know your game. We know your dirty little secrets.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Same for the mid-70s when I was taking computer classes.
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Most of us in the private sector don't have the luxury of sucking the taxpayer teat for our computer training. Exactly 35 years ago this Fryday, one of the shipyards sold me a pattern development book for $7 and told me to take it home and practice, then come back and see if I could pass the test on Monday.

The problem today is computer folk lack hands on experience in the shop. They can layout a gadget but have no idea how it routes its way into becoming part of a finished product.
 
goat said:
Most of us in the private sector don't have the luxury of sucking the taxpayer teat for our computer training. Exactly 35 years ago this Fryday, one of the shipyards sold me a pattern development book for $7 and told me to take it home and practice, then come back and see if I could pass the test on Monday.

The problem today is computer folk lack hands on experience in the shop. They can layout a gadget but have no idea how it routes its way into becoming part of a finished product.
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I was in HS, dumbass.

That's always been a problem in working with college graduates over someone who actually worked in the field of interest.
 
Doc Dutch said:
I was in HS, dumbass.

That's always been a problem in working with college graduates over someone who actually worked in the field of interest.
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I watched a documentary on Frank Whittle and he spent as much time in the shop as he did at his drafting table.
 
Uhtceare said:
THe funniest part about this whole debate is you claimed Enceladus couldn't be that cold because water can't exist as a liquid below 0degC. Something YOU SAID. Which means either:

1. YOU THINK ENCELADUS ONLY HAS DEIONIZED WATER
or
2. YOU DIDN"T KNOW ABOUT FREEZING POINT DEPRESSION

Which is it?

Go ahead, avoid the question. Because you KNOW you said it.



WHICH IS IT?
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Freshwater is is not the same as deionized water. A chemistry PhD should certainly be aware of this. A freshwater pond or lake acts for all intents and purposes as liquid molecular water, H2O because ionic concentrations are so low.

Seawater is not liquid molecular water nor is entopic equivalent natural freshwater.

Niftyniblick was not asking me to give him a detailed explanation on the thermal properties of various aqueous solutions of various concentrations.


You have yet to justify why you surreptitiously lifted words and syntax from Wikipedia's entry on atomic orbitals,
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...igions-are-mostly-wrong&p=5666782#post5666782


And you have not explained why you tried to blame Dutch Uncle for being the person behind the Perry Phimosis account.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...igions-are-mostly-wrong&p=5666842#post5666842
 
goat said:
Computer training doesn't provide the creativity. Guys like Whittle are few and far between.
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Creativity is innate. It can be nurtured, but it's difficult to teach something to a person who doesn't have it.
 
Doc Dutch said:
LOL So that's what all this has been leading up to, COgoat. Cool.
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from the interwebs

Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, which everyone else had to match or run the risk of destroying their wagon wheels. Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome , they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing. Therefore the United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot.

Do you know where this story goes?
 
Cypress said:
Freshwater is is not the same as deionized water. A chemistry PhD should certainly be aware of this. A freshwater pond or lake acts for all intents and purposes as liquid molecular water, H2O because ionic concentrations are so low.

Seawater is not liquid molecular water nor is entopic equivalent natural freshwater.

Niftyniblick was not asking me to give him a detailed explanation on the thermal properties of various aqueous solutions of various concentrations.


You have yet to justify why you surreptitiously lifted words and syntax from Wikipedia's entry on atomic orbitals,
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...igions-are-mostly-wrong&p=5666782#post5666782


And you have not explained why you tried to blame Dutch Uncle for being the person behind the Perry Phimosis account.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...igions-are-mostly-wrong&p=5666842#post5666842
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I love how you dance and dance and dance. Hilarious. It must really gall you that you didn't know about freezing point depression, yet you claim to have taken high school chemistry.

LOL
 
goat said:
from the interwebs

Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, which everyone else had to match or run the risk of destroying their wagon wheels. Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome , they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing. Therefore the United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot.

Do you know where this story goes?
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Conspiracy theory?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/railroad-gauge-chariots/
There's an interesting extension to the story about railroad gauges and horses' behinds. When we see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by Thiokol at their factory in Utah. The engineers who designed the SRBs might have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line from the factory had to run through a tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track is about as wide as two horses' behinds. So, the major design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determined over two thousand years ago by the width of a Horse's Ass!
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This item is one that, although wrong in many of its details, isn't completely false in an overall sense and is perhaps more fairly labeled as "Partly true, but for trivial and unremarkable reasons." Marveling that the width of modern roadways is similar to the width of ancient roadways is sort of like getting excited over a notion along the lines of "modern clothes sizes are based upon standards developed by medieval tailors." Well, duh. Despite obvious differences in style, clothing in the Middle Ages served the same purpose as clothing today (i.e., to cover, protect, and ornament the human body), and modern human beings are very close in size to medieval human beings (we are, on average, a little bit taller and heavier than we were several centuries ago, but not so much), so we naturally expect ancient and modern clothing to be similar in size.

So, rather than going into excruciating detail about the history of transportation, we'll simply note that roads are built to accommodate whatever uses them, and that for many centuries prior to the advent of railroads, what traveled on roads were mostly wheeled conveyances, pulled by beasts of burden (primarily horses), carrying passengers and goods. Physical conditions dictated some of the dimensions of those conveyances (such as the width of their axles) and largely ensured that they would fall within a fairly narrow range of variation: Horse-drawn vehicles, whether they were chariots or carts or carriages, all served similar functions, so practical considerations (e.g., the speed at which horses could travel, the amount of weight horses could pull, the number and arrangement of horses that could be controlled by a single driver) required that they be relatively similar in size as well.
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