Republicans Aren’t Christians

Professor Baxter said:
If you read the tales of Christ and only came away with the idea that you are supposed repudiate the same things he repudiated then you are an idiot. The whole point was to reform the immoral beliefs and dogmatic practices of the old testament by promoting empathy and understanding.
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no, I am pretty sure jesus told the adulterous to go and sin no more, when the crowd wanted to stone her to death. He was against hypocrisy and believed in forgiveness, but that was also dependent upon the other aspiring to a degree of righteousness.
 
leaningright's paragraph is just an appeal to consequence. p.s. I've made it into his sermons two times. Number of times anyone else has been in a sermon? 0.
 
Totally Tornado said:
leaningright's paragraph is just an appeal to consequence. p.s. I've made it into his sermons two times. Number of times anyone else has been in a sermon? 0.
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Actually Grind, you've been there at least three times...but Rana, Desh and Darla get mentioned on occasion too. Not by name of course. I don't go around saying "Grind said, ..." but several here get referenced. Damo is another favorite reference. But you might find it surprising that the attitudes of some of the self proclaimed conservatives on this site get much more mention in the negative than the liberals (reference my previous post, last paragraph). So you ain't got the market cornered there my friend. ;)
 
Totally Tornado said:
no, I am pretty sure jesus told the adulterous to go and sin no more, when the crowd wanted to stone her to death. He was against hypocrisy and believed in forgiveness, but that was also dependent upon the other aspiring to a degree of righteousness.
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I am not sure where you think you disagreed, but that's just one story. The general theme is about an internal relationship with God and loving your neighbor. The gospels clearly attempt to stress the spiritual and diminish the legalistic understanding of religion.
 
leaningright said:
Actually Grind, you've been there at least three times...but Rana, Desh and Darla get mentioned on occasion too. Not by name of course. I don't go around saying "Grind said, ..." but several here get referenced. Damo is another favorite reference. But you might find it surprising that the attitudes of some of the self proclaimed conservatives on this site get much more mention in the negative than the liberals (reference my previous post, last paragraph). So you ain't got the market cornered there my friend. ;)
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How exciting! I am flattered. I would like to hear you preach.
 
Threedee said:
Helping often means criticizing. I don't know how you always leap forward into theocracy, but it seems to be your defense mechanism against whatever choices you deem too hard to make.
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jumping into theocracy is due to Christians thinking that the government should be run by Christians only and use the bible as the source of all law, a bit like the Muslim imams/Ayatollahs and sharia law
 
Professor Baxter said:
I am not sure where you think you disagreed, but that's just one story. The general theme is about an internal relationship with God and loving your neighbor. The gospels clearly attempt to stress the spiritual and diminish the legalistic understanding of religion.
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yeah I just dont like it when people use jesus as an excuse for "dont tell me what I am doing is wrong," when jesus often told people not to do things, and to not sin. He wasn't an "anything goes" type of dude. he turned tables upside down and totally trashed the market going on in the temple, he would tell people to not sin (like the example I used above) etc.
 
But embracing greed and hating the idea of social justice are "exempt sins"...because they effect conservative ideology.

...oh yeah, and apparently heterosexual sex outside of marriage is exempt too, because I don't see my Christian brethren calling for fornicator's or adulterer's rights and liberties to be taken away like I see the demand for the denial of civil liberties towards gays.

And BTW....if any of you think you are saved by anything other than the Grace of God....you are massively in error.
 
Totally Tornado said:
yeah I just dont like it when people use jesus as an excuse for "dont tell me what I am doing is wrong," when jesus often told people not to do things, and to not sin. He wasn't an "anything goes" type of dude. he turned tables upside down and totally trashed the market going on in the temple, he would tell people to not sin (like the example I used above) etc.
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Yeah, again, I don't know where you think you disagreed with anything I said. I did not indicate that Jesus preached anything goes.

The complaint is against those who go to great lengths to judge others. Jesus told her to sin no more knowing she knew her own sins. He did not demean or chastise her. He did not make a personal attack against her, tell her she was diseased, evil, doomed to hell, call her a whore or anything like that which is the sort of thing we hear regularly from the so called Christians.
 
Steelplate said:
But embracing greed and hating the idea of social justice are "exempt sins"...because they effect conservative ideology.

...oh yeah, and apparently heterosexual sex outside of marriage is exempt too, because I don't see my Christian brethren calling for fornicator's or adulterer's rights and liberties to be taken away like I see the demand for the denial of civil liberties towards gays.

And BTW....if any of you think you are saved by anything other than the Grace of God....you are massively in error.
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So, do you abide by any tenants of the Christian faith?
 
Threedee said:
So, do you abide by any tenants of the Christian faith?
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Of course I do. I have never cheated on my wife(physically)...if you go by the "if you ever look at a woman with lust, you've committed adultery", then I've fallen short. I've fallen short sexually exactly three times...two one nighters and a girlfriend...the other two I married. My first wife cheated on my repeatedly and that was the basis of our divorce...which is acceptable biblically speaking. My second wife is my soul mate and I thank God all the time for her.

I've accepted Christ as my savior, I do my best to not judge.others...although on here, it's a daunting task and I fall short. I've always.been a person quick to forgive and ready to extend.my hand in friendship with anyone. I will give testimony if asked, but I will not force.it on people who don't want to hear it. What else do you want to know?

However.....being a Christian and an American, you have to separate faith from policy sometimes. You don't have to agree with something.to recognize the rights of others.
 
Professor Baxter said:
Yeah, again, I don't know where you think you disagreed with anything I said. I did not indicate that Jesus preached anything goes.

The complaint is against those who go to great lengths to judge others. Jesus told her to sin no more knowing she knew her own sins. He did not demean or chastise her. He did not make a personal attack against her, tell her she was diseased, evil, doomed to hell, call her a whore or anything like that which is the sort of thing we hear regularly from the so called Christians.
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"...which is the sort of thing we hear regularly from the so called Christians..."

Seems like you went to some great lengths to judge others there. :palm:
 
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