Republicans Aren’t Christians

Steelplate said:
Thank Citizen's United...they're the ones with the nonstop mudslinging commercials with vague names like "Americans for.progress" and "Americans for Prosperity"...I mean who wants to regress? Who doesn't want prosperity?

Commercials who any idiot can see are lies and half truths....just like the one with Ryan pushing Grandma off a cliff....which was one.of the RARE times that liberals did it...Conservatives have the shitty election commercials pretty much to themselves....at least in my neck of the woods....I'm sure it differs from region to region.
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Good points.

Ahhhhhhhh,,,,,, pushing Grandma off the cliff. What a classic.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I have no reason to deny my callous disregard for clay pigeons.......
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And I never killed a baby....but if you think I'm "guilty by association" because I'm pro-CHOICE, then you are equally as guilty for all the gun violence in America.for your opposition to reasonable gun control...namely expanded background checks...which infringes.upon no one.
 
Steelplate said:
And I never killed a baby....but if you think I'm "guilty by association" because I'm pro-CHOICE, then you are equally as guilty for all the gun violence in America.for your opposition to reasonable gun control...namely expanded background checks...which infringes.upon no one.
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/grins.....there are alternative uses for guns other than killing people......what's the alternative use of an abortion?......skeet scalpeling?.......wild fetus hunting safaris......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
/grins.....there are alternative uses for guns other than killing people......what's the alternative use of an abortion?......skeet scalpeling?.......wild fetus hunting safaris......
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Abortion is a surgical procedure. Let's see...they do hysterectomies transvaginally, DNC's, ovarian cyst removals, tying fallopian tubes...perhaps a few others that I'm not aware of. Abortion is only one of those procedures.

I mean, if we are going to skirt around the issue....your opinion that I'm a baby killer because I support a CHOICE. If that's the game you want to play...then all of the human blood spilled due to gun violence is on your head.
 
Steelplate said:
Of course I do. I have never cheated on my wife(physically)...if you go by the "if you ever look at a woman with lust, you've committed adultery", then I've fallen short. I've fallen short sexually exactly three times...two one nighters and a girlfriend...the other two I married. My first wife cheated on my repeatedly and that was the basis of our divorce...which is acceptable biblically speaking. My second wife is my soul mate and I thank God all the time for her.

I've accepted Christ as my savior, I do my best to not judge.others...although on here, it's a daunting task and I fall short. I've always.been a person quick to forgive and ready to extend.my hand in friendship with anyone. I will give testimony if asked, but I will not force.it on people who don't want to hear it. What else do you want to know?

However.....being a Christian and an American, you have to separate faith from policy sometimes. You don't have to agree with something.to recognize the rights of others.
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Yeah, that sucks about being cheated on, but it's no reflection upon you within the Church, thankfully. You overestimate how much conservatives complain publicly about morals, and which issues (like mass abortion) they actually feel the need to take action upon. You don't hide the fact that your inspiration for attacking market liberalism comes from your concept of social justice, which is no different than banning free condoms in public schools.
 
Steelplate said:
Abortion is a surgical procedure.
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if you want to broaden it to include not just abortion but all surgeries I want to broaden it to include not just guns but all things made of metal......that would make me responsible for all gun violence, auto accidents and people falling off aluminum (but not wooden) ladders......and you're responsible for abortions, failed tumor removal and medical malpractice performed during circumcision......
 
Steelplate said:
Abortion is a surgical procedure. Let's see...they do hysterectomies transvaginally, DNC's, ovarian cyst removals, tying fallopian tubes...perhaps a few others that I'm not aware of. Abortion is only one of those procedures.

I mean, if we are going to skirt around the issue....your opinion that I'm a baby killer because I support a CHOICE. If that's the game you want to play...then all of the human blood spilled due to gun violence is on your head.
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Pretty sure I will fare MUCH better than you with that one.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
if you want to broaden it to include not just abortion but all surgeries I want to broaden it to include not just guns but all things made of metal......that would make me responsible for all gun violence, auto accidents and people falling off aluminum (but not wooden) ladders......and you're responsible for abortions, failed tumor removal and medical malpractice performed during circumcision......
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The difference is....I don't really believe that you are responsible for any death you didn't cause yourself.....you on the other hand....
 
Steelplate said:
The difference is....I don't really believe that you are responsible for any death you didn't cause yourself.....you on the other hand....
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You actually do bare blame though, because abortion is a policy of deliberate and willful murder upon the population declared most beloved by Christ in the Scripture.
 
patriot66 said:
Wue would still outgive, because liberals are only charitable with other peoples money. And the only reason you do that is for more power at the voting booth. The conditions for poor people get worse, and you still continue to give them just enough to come back to vote for you, you diseased liberal.
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You mean give them enough money not to starve...
 
Steelplate said:
The difference is....I don't really believe that you are responsible for any death you didn't cause yourself.....you on the other hand....
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the difference is, you want people to have the freedom to choose to kill their children......I have never been in favor of people having the freedom to commit gun violence.....if you want things to be equal then I'm willing to pass a law that you may own an abortion clinic so long as you keep it locked in your closet where children cannot accidentally use it.....
 
Threedee said:
You actually do bare blame though, because abortion is a policy of deliberate and willful murder upon the population declared most beloved by Christ in the Scripture.
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Where does it say in the Bible that the unborn is a full blown person? Sins are not necessarily illegal.. I definitely think it's a horrific sin....but calling it murder is a matter for God to judge and he will. I don't support abortion....I support the choice. It's called personal responsibily...

You have the choice cheat on your wife, jerk off when she's away, or hook up with a homosexual for a secret encounter....all of which are.mortal sins in God's eyes....but yet you LEGALLY have those choices.

I've talked to a friend of my daughter's about this very thing. She felt she couldn't go to her parents and my daughter asked me to talk to her. I've never mentioned this before, because it's personal...but I will make an exception one time. I didn't preach the gospel to her...I simply asked her one question...Do you think you can live with that decision for the rest of your life? That opened up more dialogue and to make a long story short, she told her parents and had the child. Little boy named Taylor. She's 18, her parents kicked her out, the father of the child isn't involved and she can't get a job with a newborn(kid is 3months), so she's struggling on welfare. She told me that she sometimes regrets her decision to keep the child. My wife and I help her out as much as we can, but with a kid in college and gearing up for retirement, we can only.do so much.

I don't encourage abortion, and I will try to talk people out of it if asked my advice. However, it's not all black and white and I refuse to judge someone who makes the decision to end a pregnancy....especially early on(Plan B/1st trimester).
 
Steelplate said:
Where does it say in the Bible that the unborn is a full blown person? Sins are not necessarily illegal.. I definitely think it's a horrific sin....but calling it murder is a matter for God to judge and he will. I don't support abortion....I support the choice. It's called personal responsibily...

You have the choice cheat on your wife, jerk off when she's away, or hook up with a homosexual for a secret encounter....all of which are.mortal sins in God's eyes....but yet you LEGALLY have those choices.
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Do I have the choice to beat my wife, or did some busybody decide that sin was horrific enough that it needed a law? You can lie to yourself about the nature of abortion, but you will ultimately be held accountable for it. The difference between sins like jerking off and this, is of course the issue of harming another person. I can try to scare you, Steel, with the threat of Hell knowing that you are Catholic, but when you proceed to ignore me (which you will do), I am going to stop caring about your fate, but that won't make the murdered millions any less dead.
 
Threedee said:
Do I have the choice to beat my wife, or did some busybody decide that sin was horrific enough that it needed a law? You can lie to yourself about the nature of abortion, but you will ultimately be held accountable for it. The difference between sins like jerking off and this, is of course the issue of harming another person. I can try to scare you, Steel, with the threat of Hell knowing that you are Catholic, but when you proceed to ignore me (which you will do), I am going to stop caring about your fate, but that won't make the murdered millions any less dead.
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You break one of God's laws....you break them all. So says the Bible. There is not one among us who is righteous.

I'm not Catholic....why would you think I'm Catholic? Cheating on your wife isn't hurting others? I bet your wife and kids think(or would) different.

The day I kill a child, you can "care" about my soul.

Finally, did you even fucking READ that post, or did you just.skim it? I've actually talked a girl out of an abortion...what have you done? Bitch on a message board.
 
Society no longer recognizes adultary as physical harm, no. Yes, you have killed children through your support for it - many more than just one.
 
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