Republicans Aren’t Christians

Roo said:
Well how about that, some honesty :)

Your version of the Christian God has basis in the reality wherein He says he revealed Himself to them.
In other words your are ignorant and attempting to project what you THINK God shoild be like.
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Many throughout history have claimed that G-D was revealed to them, which one is correct, they often have opposing views.
 
patriot66 said:
Tolerance is a B.S. buzzword that liberals use that means agree with what I say or you are wrong, how pathetic and that you support a party that is antichrist, and pro baby killing
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Tolerence? What the fuck is "love your enemy as well as your neighbor" then? How about turning the other cheek? How about "let those without sin cast the first stone"? What is that but tolerence?

Moron.
 
First off, the OP must not be a Christian either, because making judgements of other people's faith is not very Christian either. Second, where did Christmas say anything about homosexuals, abortion or tax collectors. Chapter and verse please.
 
Hence my words "As He claimed to have revealed Himself to them." ;)

You don't get to project your "presuppositions" upon their revelation, its just not the way it works sweetie.

Their Gir would discourage mother's killing their children.



Rana said:
Many throughout history have claimed that G-D was revealed to them, which one is correct, they often have opposing views.
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Roo said:
Hence my words "As He claimed to have revealed Himself to them." ;)

You don't get to project your "presuppositions" upon their revelation, its just not the way it works sweetie.

Their Gir would discourage mother's killing their children.
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Condescending again.

I have no idea who Gir is, but I don't need their discouragement, I would never kill my children.
 
Socrtease said:
First off, the OP must not be a Christian either, because making judgements of other people's faith is not very Christian either. Second, where did Christmas say anything about homosexuals, abortion or tax collectors. Chapter and verse please.
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Well...he did say " pay unto Caesar that which is Caesar's"(taxes), and he did talk about sexual immorality....but that was not assigned to any one group....nothing about terminating a pregnancy that I am aware of.
 
I believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God. I know that puts me a notch or two down (or more) in the eyes of most people on this site but that is who I am. I cannot ignore the teaching of the Bible on the three areas described. Sexual immorality, including but not limited to homosexuality is sinful (Rom. 1), I must see the importance placed by God on unborn human life (Ex. 21 among other OT references) even if they are not specifically mentioned in he N T, and while Christ ate and associated with tax collectors (publicans) He never condoned any sinful practice (see Zacchaheus Lk. 19) they might have been participating in. Yes, I am old fashioned enough to believe that per-marital sex is wrong, I believe homosexuality is wrong and I believe abortion is murder. Tax me all you want as long as you use it well (SS, Medicare, -Cade, etc.).

And yes Prof. Baxter, I do realized that at 47 I am a shrinking demographic. It worries me, yes. The world that my young son will grow up in scares me to death. But I can't change who I am or what I believe.

Which brings me to the T-word..." Tolerance." I'll start by stating that I try to be tolerant but am far from perfect in that regard. Many who claim the name of Christ show so much hatred for those that oppose them. Hardly a "love your enemies" approach you have to admit. One must "turn the other cheek" but it has never been taught that one must needlessly allow abuse. And as far as the proclamation of Christ that the one without sin should "cast the first stone" it is true that he said that ... But it was to expose the motivation behind the religious zealots of the day. But once again he did not condone the woman's sin (sexual immorality) but instructed her to go her way and "sin no more."

One final thought before I climb off my soap box. As one who claims the name of Christ I will not be politically silent. I realize that my convictions put me in not such good company at times. But to others who claim the name of Christ I want to say please act more like it (Eph. 4:1). So much of what we say or do reflects upon the One we're supposed to be representing. Also mind that Christians have never been promised that they'd be in the majority but he opposite is true (Matt. 7:13-14). As I climb down off my soap box I am reminded of why I so rarely go off on one of these rants. It changes little. But this is a good place to vent and once in a while a guy's gotta vent. Thanks Damo.
 
signalmankenneth said:
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Republicans Aren’t Christians

Whether it’s fiscal austerity, Benghazi, or opposition to gun control, the Republican Party is remarkably disciplined. Day after day, press conference after press conference, Republican members of Congress speak from the same hymnal. But it’s not a Christian hymnal. While the Republicans claim to be true believers they actually eschew the moral teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.
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unfortunately, too many christians do not follow some of christ's most important teachings :(
 
leaningright said:
I believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God. I know that puts me a notch or two down (or more) in the eyes of most people on this site but that is who I am. I cannot ignore the teaching of the Bible on the three areas described. Sexual immorality, including but not limited to homosexuality is sinful (Rom. 1), I must see the importance placed by God on unborn human life (Ex. 21 among other OT references) even if they are not specifically mentioned in he N T, and while Christ ate and associated with tax collectors (publicans) He never condoned any sinful practice (see Zacchaheus Lk. 19) they might have been participating in. Yes, I am old fashioned enough to believe that per-marital sex is wrong, I believe homosexuality is wrong and I believe abortion is murder. Tax me all you want as long as you use it well (SS, Medicare, -Cade, etc.).

And yes Prof. Baxter, I do realized that at 47 I am a shrinking demographic. It worries me, yes. The world that my young son will grow up in scares me to death. But I can't change who I am or what I believe.

Which brings me to the T-word..." Tolerance." I'll start by stating that I try to be tolerant but am far from perfect in that regard. Many who claim the name of Christ show so much hatred for those that oppose them. Hardly a "love your enemies" approach you have to admit. One must "turn the other cheek" but it has never been taught that one must needlessly allow abuse. And as far as the proclamation of Christ that the one without sin should "cast the first stone" it is true that he said that ... But it was to expose the motivation behind the religious zealots of the day. But once again he did not condone the woman's sin (sexual immorality) but instructed her to go her way and "sin no more."

One final thought before I climb off my soap box. As one who claims the name of Christ I will not be politically silent. I realize that my convictions put me in not such good company at times. But to others who claim the name of Christ I want to say please act more like it (Eph. 4:1). So much of what we say or do reflects upon the One we're supposed to be representing. Also mind that Christians have never been promised that they'd be in the majority but he opposite is true (Matt. 7:13-14). As I climb down off my soap box I am reminded of why I so rarely go off on one of these rants. It changes little. But this is a good place to vent and once in a while a guy's gotta vent. Thanks Damo.
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you rely too much on the old testament and cherry pick from portions of the new testament

Christ's main teaching was love and there is not enough love in the world

if you want a good religion, try Jainism
 
leaningright said:
I believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God. I know that puts me a notch or two down (or more) in the eyes of most people on this site but that is who I am. I cannot ignore the teaching of the Bible on the three areas described. Sexual immorality, including but not limited to homosexuality is sinful (Rom. 1), I must see the importance placed by God on unborn human life (Ex. 21 among other OT references) even if they are not specifically mentioned in he N T, and while Christ ate and associated with tax collectors (publicans) He never condoned any sinful practice (see Zacchaheus Lk. 19) they might have been participating in. Yes, I am old fashioned enough to believe that per-marital sex is wrong, I believe homosexuality is wrong and I believe abortion is murder. Tax me all you want as long as you use it well (SS, Medicare, -Cade, etc.).

And yes Prof. Baxter, I do realized that at 47 I am a shrinking demographic. It worries me, yes. The world that my young son will grow up in scares me to death. But I can't change who I am or what I believe.

Which brings me to the T-word..." Tolerance." I'll start by stating that I try to be tolerant but am far from perfect in that regard. Many who claim the name of Christ show so much hatred for those that oppose them. Hardly a "love your enemies" approach you have to admit. One must "turn the other cheek" but it has never been taught that one must needlessly allow abuse. And as far as the proclamation of Christ that the one without sin should "cast the first stone" it is true that he said that ... But it was to expose the motivation behind the religious zealots of the day. But once again he did not condone the woman's sin (sexual immorality) but instructed her to go her way and "sin no more."

One final thought before I climb off my soap box. As one who claims the name of Christ I will not be politically silent. I realize that my convictions put me in not such good company at times. But to others who claim the name of Christ I want to say please act more like it (Eph. 4:1). So much of what we say or do reflects upon the One we're supposed to be representing. Also mind that Christians have never been promised that they'd be in the majority but he opposite is true (Matt. 7:13-14). As I climb down off my soap box I am reminded of why I so rarely go off on one of these rants. It changes little. But this is a good place to vent and once in a while a guy's gotta vent. Thanks Damo.
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Man, I am good. I hadn't even posted in this thread.

I would not worry. The world is improving.

The problem is that the Bible is an imperfect moral guide. It is applied selectively and in a morally relative way, but believers pretend their code is objective and cannot be changed, when it suits them. Of course, it can, has and will continue to or it will become impractical.

Many parts of the Bible condone slavery, genocide and are quite mysoginistic. Decent people, like you, now reject such things as immoral. There is no reason the moral understandings cannot change further and you need to have a better argument than a few barely relevant passages.
 
leaningright said:
I believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God. I know that puts me a notch or two down (or more) in the eyes of most people on this site but that is who I am. I cannot ignore the teaching of the Bible on the three areas described. Sexual immorality, including but not limited to homosexuality is sinful (Rom. 1), I must see the importance placed by God on unborn human life (Ex. 21 among other OT references) even if they are not specifically mentioned in he N T, and while Christ ate and associated with tax collectors (publicans) He never condoned any sinful practice (see Zacchaheus Lk. 19) they might have been participating in. Yes, I am old fashioned enough to believe that per-marital sex is wrong, I believe homosexuality is wrong and I believe abortion is murder. Tax me all you want as long as you use it well (SS, Medicare, -Cade, etc.).

And yes Prof. Baxter, I do realized that at 47 I am a shrinking demographic. It worries me, yes. The world that my young son will grow up in scares me to death. But I can't change who I am or what I believe.

Which brings me to the T-word..." Tolerance." I'll start by stating that I try to be tolerant but am far from perfect in that regard. Many who claim the name of Christ show so much hatred for those that oppose them. Hardly a "love your enemies" approach you have to admit. One must "turn the other cheek" but it has never been taught that one must needlessly allow abuse. And as far as the proclamation of Christ that the one without sin should "cast the first stone" it is true that he said that ... But it was to expose the motivation behind the religious zealots of the day. But once again he did not condone the woman's sin (sexual immorality) but instructed her to go her way and "sin no more."

One final thought before I climb off my soap box. As one who claims the name of Christ I will not be politically silent. I realize that my convictions put me in not such good company at times. But to others who claim the name of Christ I want to say please act more like it (Eph. 4:1). So much of what we say or do reflects upon the One we're supposed to be representing. Also mind that Christians have never been promised that they'd be in the majority but he opposite is true (Matt. 7:13-14). As I climb down off my soap box I am reminded of why I so rarely go off on one of these rants. It changes little. But this is a good place to vent and once in a while a guy's gotta vent. Thanks Damo.
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Ok....first off, decent post. Good even.

But did you ever think that the religious zealots of TODAY are behaving MUCH like the religious zealots of Christ's time? Too caught up on sin and punishment and not enough on forgiveness and love? "Go, and sin no more" is that possible? Do you not fall short all the time, or is it just me? I have moments of divinely inspired good....and I also have darkness in me that comes out.

The one we represent DIED to forgive the sins of the world. I act the way I do out of love....I love my homosexual brethren, I love women who abort a pregnancy. I love drug addicts and prostitutes. I firmly believe that God has it all under control and his will WILL be done. It may not be what you or I think his will is....I have a disdain for the extremely greedy....you have a disdain for sins of the flesh. I wish you'd focus more on the social justice side of Christ's teachings, you wish I'd focus more on PERSONAL immorality.

I have a question for you....one that I cannot personally wrap my head around. Suppose for a second you were born in the Middle East....or say the Orient....it doesn't matter....screw it....for shock effect....let's use the Middle East. OK, so you were born into a Muslim family, you were raised in the Islamic Church, and you believe in their doctrine.....you are devout...but not a radical(terrorist). How would an all knowing God send you to hell for eternity for that? I'm talking about an entity that can read your heart, mind and soul as easily as you are reading my post. That's what I can't wrap my head around....I have to believe that there is some universal truths that go beyond sectarian religious dogma.... I have to...the alternative is too horrific to think about.

And if God willing to look inside the souls.of other religions, why can't he look into the soul of a scared teenage girl who sees no way.out at this moment in time than to end a pregnancy....or someone who feels so different than you or I that the only people he/she feels attracted to is people of his/her own sex?

I am not condoning these things....I just think God is bigger than we give.him credit for.

I do not hate you my brother....I forgive you, and I love you in Christ.
 
Your pretentiousness earns you condescenion, you ain't my first rodeo honey.

Your deflections and dodges won't work with me, you are not my first BBQ.

Rana said:
Condescending again.

I have no idea who Gir is, but I don't need their discouragement, I would never kill my children.
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Steelplate said:
Tolerence? What the fuck is "love your enemy as well as your neighbor" then? How about turning the other cheek? How about "let those without sin cast the first stone"? What is that but tolerence?

Moron.
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Did Jesus or did he not overturn the money changers tables in the temple, was he tolerant of Peter when he said get behind me Satan, How about Saul did he or did he not blind him for a time, was he tolerant of the pharisees when they came to him with the adulterous woman, or did he shame them.
 
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