RIP Obamacare, 2010-2014?

evince said:
your bullshit will not come to fruition and the country will see you all as blind fools.
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The warnings have been out there since the beginning that those covered by catastrophic policies will not meet the minimum coverage required by the individual mandate. This fellow on Facebook found himself in that very predicament.

Shane Jansen
So I got a letter from Bluecross Blueshield, my health insurance provider, on Saturday. It explained
that my current plan, the plan I chose to fit my individual needs, does not comply with Obamacare and thus had to be cancelled. It went on to say that I shouldn't worry because I had been automatically moved to new plan that does meet the new Obamacare requirements. The details of my new plan are just excellent. My deductible went from $1500 up to $2500, that's 66%. My limit on annual out of pocket expenses went up from $1500 to $6350, up 323%. I'm now covered for a bunch of things I don't want or need, like mental illness inpatient and substance abuse inpatient treatment coverage. Now a rational person might assume that when something I chose to buy, and wanted to keep was taken from me, it would at least cost less to pay for the thing that was forced onto me. Well that's the best part! My monthly premium went up from $139.50 to $229.19, an increase of 65%! I get to pay MORE for something I don't even want... Remember when our fearless leader said if we like our current plan we can keep it? I know I'm not the only person experiencing this. Please share your story, people have to understand what's happening here.
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Evince: "Snarl! Snap! Fuckin' Lair!"
 
On this forum I'm pretty hot with my predictions.

As soon as I post something I predict you're going to come right back with something moronic. I'm at about 95% infallible at this point.
 
You have never predicted anything correctly.

Hell you didn't know it was proven Bush ignored the threat of OBL before 911
 
evince said:
dude you have just been proven a fucking liar with cold hard facts and that is all you got?
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What "cold hard facts"?

"Cold hard facts" would disprove what I'm saying about catastrophic plans not meeting the minimum requirements for the Obamacare individual mandate.

Where is that?

Calling a mackerel a fish is a cold hard fact, but it doesn't prove I'm wrong.

Not that it matters, because no one has even posted anything yet as convincing as a mackerel being a fish yet anyway.
 
You see when you have to lie to defend your failed ideas its just more proof they are failed ideas
 
It is the height of stupidity to cling to failed ideas in the face of facts.


what do you think you gain by doing it?
 
Ahhh, I've just figured out your modus operandi.

You keep posting insults over and over until a new page is started, that way people may not bother to click back and see how savagely you were pwned.
 
Taft2016 said:
Ultimately all of us who had health insurance we liked are going to lose, like the guy above.

As the reality starts to hit people, repeal will be become the new reality.
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NONSENSE.

The wife and I will continue to have the same wonderful insurance we've had from her employer.

The above is just another Taft lie.
 
Taft2016 said:
The warnings have been out there since the beginning that those covered by catastrophic policies will not meet the minimum coverage required by the individual mandate. This fellow on Facebook found himself in that very predicament.



Evince: "Snarl! Snap! Fuckin' Lair!"
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You bet.

With no link to prove this guy's claims, it's just more anecdotal, unfounded, third-party hearsay.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
NONSENSE.

The wife and I will continue to have the same wonderful insurance we've had from her employer.
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Why am I not surprised you're one of those guys who depends upon his wife?

But moving along, suppose your wife's employer decides it is economically to his advantage to pay the employer penalty, much cheaper than providing health insurance... and toss you and your breadwinner onto the exchanges?

And please, something more substantial than "ZOMG! That could never happen!"

Because it could.
 
Taft2016 said:
Why am I not surprised you're one of those guys who depends upon his wife?

But moving along, suppose your wife's employer decides it is economically to his advantage to pay the employer penalty, much cheaper than providing health insurance... and toss you and your breadwinner onto the exchanges?

And please, something more substantial than "ZOMG! That could never happen!"

Because it could.
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Actually it couldn't.

She works for the largest chain of grocery stores in Texas.

The company employs THOUSANDS of employees all across the SW.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Actually it couldn't.

She works for the largest chain of grocery stores in Texas.
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Predictable response.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/walgreen-moves-health-coverage-private-exchange-20289346

Walgreen Co. is joining a growing push from big businesses to shift more responsibility for finding insurance onto their employees as health care costs continue to climb.

The nation's largest drugstore chain said Wednesday that it will send workers to a private health insurance exchange where they will pick from as many as 25 plans instead of having the company give them two to four options.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323308504579085482697231734.html

Home Depot Inc. HD +0.69%plans to end health-care coverage for almost 20,000 part-time employees, instead directing them to government-sponsored insurance exchanges.

The Affordable Care Act—President Barack Obama's health-care overhaul —precludes the company from offering the limited-liability plans that part-time workers currently receive, said spokesman Stephen Holmes. The change will affect nearly 20,000 people, which is about 5% of the company's work force, Mr. Holmes said.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...g-retiree-health-plans-in-historic-shift.html

America’s biggest employers, from GE to IBM, are increasingly moving retirees to insurance exchanges where they select their own health plans, an historic shift that could push more costs onto U.S. taxpayers.

Time Warner Inc. (TWX) yesterday said it would steer retired workers toward a privately run exchange, days after a similar announcement by International Business Machines Corp. General Electric Co. (GE) last year said it, too, would curb benefits in a move that may send some former employees to the public insurance exchanges created under the 2010 Affordable Care Act.
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It can't happen? You're deluding yourself.
 
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