Rittenhouse… likely not guilty.

You seem to be arguing that someone that is committing a crime can claim self defense if they kill someone while committing that crime.
It was illegal for Rittenhouse at 17 to be carrying a loaded weapon on the street. There is a reason why his defense lawyers are trying to get that criminal charge dropped.

I think the law still allows self defense if you are committing a crime, but I could be wrong on that.
 
I'm guessing Rittenhouse will get acquitted, and frankly he probably should get acquitted based on the state of the law. It's going to be hard for a jury to conclusively decide, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he wasn't acting in self defense. The fact that he was a smooth-brained white-supremacist-military-fetishist-small-Dick-energy-LARPer is relevant to the story and how he should be treated by society going forward, but jurors may decide it isn't relevant (assuming they even get to hear about it).

I could be wrong and part of me hopes that I am, but part of me also hopes that if the law provides that he's entitled to claim self-defense under the circumstances he successfully claimed it. The law has the same effect whether popular or not, and the way to fix it is to fix the law, not to twist it so that someone gets wrongfully convicted, even if that person is an inveterate fucknut. 

Self defense usually is found not guilty!
 
You seem to be arguing that someone that is committing a crime can claim self defense if they kill someone while committing that crime.
It was illegal for Rittenhouse at 17 to be carrying a loaded weapon on the street. There is a reason why his defense lawyers are trying to get that criminal charge dropped.

Wait isn't it always the guns fault according to liberals, that gun should be put down! Unless Alec Baldwin needs another prop gun:laugh:
 
I don't think that they would have brought murder charges if the self-defense thing was likely to fly. No doubt the prosecution has accessed the young turd's social media accounts, text messages, phone records, etc. and can show that his trip to destiny was planned in advance, there was discussion of killing the "looters" and "rioters," and of course there's the illegality of him even possessing a firearm, which possession was also planned ahead. No doubt they believed that when he shot ppl, his youth would give him a pass.

It's interesting to think about what our Reichwinger friends here would be saying if the protesters had been a bunch of MAGATs or neo-Nazis (redundant, I know) running amuck -- and Kyle was a teenage black kid who had gotten a gun via a friend and gone there to "protect" the city, and killed a few of them. I'm guessing he would have already been hung from the closest lamp post.
Agreed. OTOH, there are six key charges that can send young Kyle to prison and only two of them involve self-defense to kill a person.
 
Wait isn't it always the guns fault according to liberals, that gun should be put down! Unless Alec Baldwin needs another prop gun:laugh:


Has everyone noticed that the Alt-Right Trump sheeple are conveying Baldwin but giving a pass to Kyle?

FWIW, yes, someone should go to jail for the killing of Halyna just as Kyle should go to jail for his actions in Kenosha.
 
If he gets acquitted, he'll merely face non-judicial justice.
Every gang banger in the mid-west knows his face and his idiot mother's, too.
He won't be around long.

So u are admitting they are violent ..sane non-violent people accept a verdict and move on or OJ would be dead now.. I guess u would have supported some good o redneck non-judicial justice on OJ back in 1995

And thats why it was self defense and this kid needs a gun...they tried to kill him once but he was able to protect himself
 
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I know, I am not saying he will be found not guilty due to his mental illness, I am saying, if he was afraid for his life it was because mental illness put him in that situation.
No doubt being nutty is a requirement to joint the white supremacist domestic terrorist group Boogaloo Boris and the Kenosha Guard. Some of those assholes will be going to jail for related charges.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/1374624/kenosha-guard-militia-kyle-rittenhouse-wisconsin-protests-blm/
What is the 'Kenosha Guard'?

The Kenosha Guard are a militia group that started on Facebook.

The group has patrolled the streets of the city in Wisconsin following the heated protests spurred by the shooting of Jacob Blake.

The group’s goal is to recruit “any patriots willing to take up arms and defend our city tonight from evil thugs.”

They post events about disrupting protests with schedules.

A post written to Kenosha Police Chief Miskins signed “Kenosha Guard Commander” said: “As you know I am the commander of the Kenosha Guard, a local militia.

https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/lo...cle_98b1e948-2b2f-50de-b789-1618f057606c.html
Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis announces retirement
In the aftermath of the Blake shooting, Miskinis and Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth received national criticism, including calls for their resignations by organizations including the American Civil Liberties Union, when video emerged of a police officer thanking militia members who came to the city and giving them water, and after video showed police driving past Kyle Rittenhouse after he shot three protesters, killing two. Rittenhouse, later arrested and charged with homicide, has maintained he was acting in self defense.
 
I'm guessing Rittenhouse will get acquitted, and frankly he probably should get acquitted based on the state of the law. It's going to be hard for a jury to conclusively decide, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he wasn't acting in self defense. The fact that he was a smooth-brained white-supremacist-military-fetishist-small-Dick-energy-LARPer is relevant to the story and how he should be treated by society going forward, but jurors may decide it isn't relevant (assuming they even get to hear about it).

I could be wrong and part of me hopes that I am, but part of me also hopes that if the law provides that he's entitled to claim self-defense under the circumstances he successfully claimed it. The law has the same effect whether popular or not, and the way to fix it is to fix the law, not to twist it so that someone gets wrongfully convicted, even if that person is an inveterate fucknut. 

Everyone thought James Fields would be acquitted for running over Heather Heyer with his car, a case with many, many similarities to this one...Fields' defense was that he felt threatened by the crowd, so that's why he drove into them.

Kyle also felt threatened by the crowd, which is why he fired into it before anyone tried to disarm him.

An active shooter does not have the right to self-defense.
 
Everyone thought James Fields would be acquitted for running over Heather Heyer with his car, a case with many, many similarities to this one...Fields' defense was that he felt threatened by the crowd, so that's why he drove into them.

Kyle also felt threatened by the crowd, which is why he fired into it before anyone tried to disarm him.

An active shooter does not have the right to self-defense.

Was there pics of Fields being attacked while on his back?


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Was there pics of Fields being attacked while on his back?

Those pics show the disarming of an active shooter.

By that point, Kyle had already fired into the crowd.

Wouldn't you disarm an active shooter if there was one around you?

Or would you run away and hide because you're a gigantic pussy?

I think you'd run and hide because you're a gigantic pussy, which is why you were nowhere near DC on 1/6.
 
Those pics show the disarming of an active shooter.

By that point, Kyle had already fired into the crowd.

Wouldn't you disarm an active shooter if there was one around you?

Or would you run away and hide because you're a gigantic pussy?

I think you'd run and hide because you're a gigantic pussy, which is why you were nowhere near DC on 1/6.

Active shooter?

Yup and it wasn't Kyle


Kenosha protester charged with firing gun right before Kyle Rittenhouse began shooting


Joshua Ziminski, 35, was charged last week with disorderly conduct-use of a dangerous weapon, a misdemeanor, in the Aug. 25 incident.

An hourlong analysis of different videos from that evening by Neil Kiernan, a Michigan-based blogger, posted Sept. 26, properly identified Ziminski and breaks down his presence near the gas station where Rittenhouse first fires his AR-15 rifle, killing Rosenbaum.

Ziminski and his wife are seen with Rosenbaum several times, including as they all confront Rittenhouse right before Rosenbaum starts chasing Rittenhouse into the car lot where their encounter turned fatal.

When Kenosha detectives interviewed Ziminski on Oct. 7, he said he had fired a "warning shot" and that gun he used, and is seen holding in various videos from that evening, has since been stolen.


According to the criminal complaint, videos show Ziminski pointing the gun up near the corner of 63rd St. and Sheridan Road, just a few yards from where Rosenbaum, 36, had chased Rittenhouse into an area of parked cars. As the shot is heard, Rittenhouse turns back toward Rosenbaum.

Witnesses say Rosenbaum then tried to grab the rifle from Rittenhouse, who then fired four times.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...iring-gun-prior-rittenhouse-shots/3667399001/

WHOOPS

SO KYLE HEARD A GUN SHOT AND THAN WAS ATTACKED
 
Active shooter?

Yes, prior to those pictures, Kyle had fired his gun into the crowd.

He wasn't acting in self-defense of his life, he was acting in defense of his gun, which is what those guys were trying to disarm.


up and it wasn't Kyle

There were two separate incidences you're trying to conflate as one.

Kyle shot into the crowd before those guys tried to disarm him.

But it's good to know that you can't be relied upon to disarm an active shooter.
 
Has everyone noticed that the Alt-Right Trump sheeple are conveying Baldwin but giving a pass to Kyle?

FWIW, yes, someone should go to jail for the killing of Halyna just as Kyle should go to jail for his actions in Kenosha.

And they are arguing Rittenhouse could shoot an unarmed person in self defense because there was a mob but then demand that an officer be charged for shooting Ashli Babbet because she was 'unarmed' even though she was part of a violent insurrection.
 
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