Science from the other side of Climate Change

[Into the Night]

Those questions are separate from the claim that climate doesn't exist (or at least you're baffled by what is meant by climate) and/or can't change.

Climate exists. Climate cannot change.

 

[AProudLefty]

Many discard theories of science, including you. Science is not a religion. It is not a 'belief'.

No shit, Sherlock?

 

[Into the Night]

Since you continue to play dumb....

An ice age is a long period of time when the Earth's average temperature is lower than normal, and large areas of the Earth are covered by glaciers and ice sheets.

Define what is 'normal'.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
There is no 'normal' temperature of the Earth.
Earth's temperature is unknown.

 

[ZenMode]

Climate exists. Climate cannot change.

Saying climate can't change is just more playing word games and playing dumb.

 

[ZenMode]

Define what is 'normal'.

For those who aren't science deniers, it is believed that there have been 5 major ice ages. Normal temperatures are those that don't cause the spreading of sheets of ice across the northern hemisphere.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

Thanks for confirming your science denial.

There is no 'normal' temperature of the Earth.
Earth's temperature is unknown.

Thanks for confirming your science denial.

 

[Into the Night]

Saying climate can't change is just more playing word games and playing dumb.

What is 'changing', Void? Climate has no values that can 'change'.

 

[Into the Night]

For those who aren't science deniers, it is believed that there have been 5 major ice ages.

Religion isn't science, Void. It is not 'beliefs'.

Normal temperatures are those that don't cause the spreading of sheets of ice across the northern hemisphere.

There are sheets of ice across the northern hemisphere. Why do you define this as 'normal'??

Thanks for confirming your science denial. Thanks for confirming your science denial.

LIF. Grow up.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. There is no 'science' to measure what is not possible to measure.
You are just denying mathematics as well as theories of science.

Just for giggles, how would YOU measure the temperature of the Earth? No links. No cut and paste. Let's see YOUR answer.

 

[ZenMode]

What is 'changing', Void? Climate has no values that can 'change'.

Back to playing dumb and playing word games. Great way to deflect.

 

[ZenMode]

Just for giggles, how would YOU measure the temperature of the Earth? No links. No cut and paste. Let's see YOUR answer.

Nope. I don't need to explain anything. We both already know how it works.

As I said, you deny science whenever is needed to continue believing what you want to believe. You prove that in post after post after post after post. You would likely believe ANYTHING from ANYONE if it contributed to what you want to believe. When actual scientists say something you don't like, suddenly go into denial mode and start playing dumb, playing word games, etc.

 

[Into the Night]

Back to playing dumb and playing word games. Great way to deflect.

I'm not playing any word games. YOU ARE. I gave you a fair chance to describe what is 'changing' in a climate. Apparently you have no answer.

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. I don't need to explain anything. We both already know how it works.

How what works, Void??

As I said, you deny science whenever is needed to continue believing what you want to believe.

LIF. Grow up.

You prove that in post after post after post after post.

LIF. Grow up.

You would likely believe ANYTHING from ANYONE if it contributed to what you want to believe.

LIF. Grow up.

When actual scientists say something you don't like, suddenly go into denial mode and start playing dumb, playing word games, etc.

LIF. Grow up.

Stop arguing like a toddler. DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEMS ON ME OR ANYBODY ELSE!

 

[ZenMode]

I'm not playing any word games. YOU ARE. I gave you a fair chance to describe what is 'changing' in a climate. Apparently you have no answer.

Because you play dumb and play word games. "Well, there's no single measure so it can't change!"

We already know climate can change. That's why ice ages happened. In a warmer climate, which is normal in the history of the earth, sheets of ice don't cover most of the northern hemisphere.

If sheets of ice covering the northern hemisphere was the norm, then a colder climate would also be the norm 'cause I can't form when it's warm!

Again, why I have to explain this to someone who is supposedly all about science is baffling.

 

[Into the Night]

Because you play dumb and play word games. "Well, there's no single measure so it can't change!"

Still can't specify a value, eh?

We already know climate can change.

What is 'changing', Void??

That's why ice ages happened.

What 'ice ages'? 'Ice age' is not a climate nor a 'change'.

In a warmer climate, which is normal in the history of the earth, sheets of ice don't cover most of the northern hemisphere.

What is 'normal'? Sheets of ice currently cover part of the northern hemisphere. It's winter.

If sheets of ice covering the northern hemisphere was the norm, then a colder climate would also be the norm 'cause I can't form when it's warm!

What do you mean by 'warm'? What is the temperature of 'warm'? Climate has no temperature or age.

Again, why I have to explain this to someone who is supposedly all about science is baffling.

You inability to understand English has nothing to do with science, dude.

 

[IBDaMann]

One doesn't believe in science.

Science has nothing to say about the past. Why do you believe there were "ice ages" when you can't even define what you believe that is?

 

[AProudLefty]

Science has nothing to say about the past. Why do you believe there were "ice ages" when you can't even define what you believe that is?

Are you saying science cannot be used to explain the past?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I don't care if you believe me or not. It is not part of your affirmative argument.


The glacier is not the climate. Shouldn't you first learn what a climate is before you start pointing to glaciers and calling them "climates"? What will you be calling a "climate" next? The ground? Clouds? In fact, why don't you show pictures of the same place with different cloud cover and claim that the "climate" changed? Why don't you show pics of the same place on both a clear, sunny day and on a rainy day, and claim that the "climate" has changed?

Why don't you try that?

The shrinking of a glacier due to warming weather trends is climate related. The question is what is the cause of the warming. My bet is it isn't CO2 in the atmosphere.

cli·mate
[ˈklīmət]
noun

1. the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period
   
   

 

[ZenMode]

Still can't specify a value, eh?

What is 'changing', Void??

What 'ice ages'? 'Ice age' is not a climate nor a 'change'.

What is 'normal'? Sheets of ice currently cover part of the northern hemisphere. It's winter.

What do you mean by 'warm'? What is the temperature of 'warm'? Climate has no temperature or age.

You inability to understand English has nothing to do with science, dude.

I don't have a value for pain, but pain level can change. Stop playing word games.

I didn't say ice age was climate. Stop playing word games.

Normal can be a range and, as I already said, and you already know, it is not normal for sheet of ice to cover most of the northern hemisphere.

"What do you mean by 'warm'? What is the temperature of 'warm'? Climate has no temperature or age."

Stop play word games.

 

[IBDaMann]

We already know climate can change.

Nope. We already know that it can't. We already know that no climate has any value properties. We already know that there is nothing to change. We already know that you know this, that this has been explained to you many, many times, but that you are totally dishonest, you play dumb, you chant the same already-answered questions over and over, you accuse others of doing everything that you do, and you deliberately lie in every post.

That's why ice ages happened.

You cannot show that any ice age ever happened. You believe, as you do with Global Warming, that your omnipotence grants you the magickal superpower to declare any historical revisionism you wish into existence.

Start with explaining why any rational adult should believe that there was an ice age. No, wait, do that second. First, define unambiguously what the fuck an "ice age" is.

In a warmer climate, which is normal in the history of the earth,

You can't use the word "history" unless you only intend to go back to the first human writings.

sheets of ice don't cover most of the northern hemisphere.

You noticed?

If sheets of ice covering the northern hemisphere was the norm, then a colder climate would also be the norm 'cause I can't form when it's warm!

Since no one has any reason to believe that ice sheets covered the northern hemisphere, no one has any reason to believe that there was ever an ice age.

Regarding this changing climate to which you refer, you still haven't specified which one.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Relevant to what?

Anything? Everything?

 

[Daylight63]

You have no data and you can't support you arguments.

Prove me wrong.

I already did. You lose.