Science from the other side of Climate Change

Into the Night said:
Climate cannot change. Science does not redefine English words.
Science is not a study or research.

You still deny the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, Kirchoff's law, and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. These are theories of science that YOU deny.

It is YOU claiming the creation of energy out nothing. DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEM ON ANYBODY ELSE!

Climate has not temperature. Climate cannot change.
You cannot create energy out of nothing. You are still ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.

A fundamentalist religion such as the Church of Global Warming isn't intellectual curiosity.
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"It is YOU claiming the creation of energy out nothing. DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEM ON ANYBODY ELSE!"

Once again proving how uninformed and/or dishonest you are.
 
ZenMode said:
I didn't ask a question.
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DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!
ZenMode said:
I made statements. You have repeatedly claimed that man-made climate change involves the creation of energy.
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Climate cannot change. YOU claim that 'climate change' creates energy out of nothing.
ZenMode said:
I'm doing so, you have repeatedly proven that you are either a) ignorant or dishonest.
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Argument of the Stone fallacy. Mantra 1a. Lame.
 
Into the Night said:
DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!

Climate cannot change. YOU claim that 'climate change' creates energy out of nothing.

Argument of the Stone fallacy. Mantra 1a. Lame.
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"YOU claim that 'climate change' creates energy out of nothing."

Nope. More lies. At no point is energy created any more than energy is created to make the inside of a car hotter than the outside.

Again, educate yourself on how the atmosphere CURRENTLY works and what is believed to happen to cause temperatures to rise.
 
Nordberg said:
It was likely the confluence of the energies that existed in the place where the universe formed. Mass =energy, not god. Space vacuums are not empty. Sub-atomic particles appear and disappear in them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_vacuum_state#:~:text=According to quantum mechanics, the,out of the quantum field.
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It's not even that complicated. There's a reason that the earth doesn't get down to -200 degrees at night and up over 200 during the day - the atmosphere. The atmosphere blocks some energy from the sun and slows how quickly the energy radiating from earth escapes into space. There no energy being created. It's the existing energy being kept in place longer.
 
ZenMode said:
"YOU claim that 'climate change' creates energy out of nothing."

Nope. More lies. At no point is energy created any more than energy is created to make the inside of a car hotter than the outside.

Again, educate yourself on how the atmosphere CURRENTLY works and what is believed to happen to cause temperatures to rise.
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IBDM and ITN are in essence arguing that you cannot know the temperature inside an oven because the thermocouple that measures the temperature only does so at one point, and that point is definitely not indicative of the temperature of the oven as a whole.

They further try to argue applying Stefan-Boltzmann incorrectly (among other incorrectly applied laws of thermodynamics), that the atmosphere of the Earth does not act as an insulator to one degree or another and affect the temperature of the surface of the planet as a result.
 
gfm7175 said:
Again.... redistributing thermal energy from one part of Earth to another part of Earth does not add any additional thermal energy to Earth.

Earth's temperature remains the same. Earth remains in equilibrium.
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I'm not say redistributing adds additional energy. Energy comes in. Energy goes out. The atmosphere CURRENTLY impacts both. If less energy goes out overnight, before the sun comes around to your part of the Earth again, temperatures will rise.

Of course, in order to even approach that question, you have to acknowledge that the atmosphere CURRENTLY impacts high and low temps on earth. That seems to be a "struggle" for some.
 
ZenMode said:
"YOU claim that 'climate change' creates energy out of nothing."

Nope. More lies. At no point is energy created any more than energy is created to make the inside of a car hotter than the outside.
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I see you are confused about 'heat' again. The car is NOT hotter than the outside at night (unless the engine is running!).
ZenMode said:
Again, educate yourself on how the atmosphere CURRENTLY works and what is believed to happen to cause temperatures to rise.
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You can't create energy out of nothing, Void. You are still ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.
 
ZenMode said:
It's not even that complicated. There's a reason that the earth doesn't get down to -200 degrees at night and up over 200 during the day - the atmosphere. The atmosphere blocks some energy from the sun and slows how quickly the energy radiating from earth escapes into space. There no energy being created. It's the existing energy being kept in place longer.
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Now you are ignoring Kirchoff's law again. Special pleading fallacy.
You are also not ignoring the 2nd law of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law.

You cannot trap heat.
You cannot trap light.
You cannot trap thermal energy. There is always heat.
You cannot heat the warmer surface using a colder gas.
 
Into the Night said:
I see you are confused about 'heat' again. The car is NOT hotter than the outside at night (unless the engine is running!).

You can't create energy out of nothing, Void. You are still ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.
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The inside of a car is will have a higher temperature as long as it is sitting in the sun and temperatures will remain higher for some period of time after the sun has stopped adding more energy.
 
Into the Night said:
Now you are ignoring Kirchoff's law again. Special pleading fallacy.
You are also not ignoring the 2nd law of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law.

You cannot trap heat.
You cannot trap light.
You cannot trap thermal energy. There is always heat.
You cannot heat the warmer surface using a colder gas.
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As I have said repeatedly... you don't believe the Earth's atmosphere CURRENTLY impacts temperatures on earth. IOW, you are a science denier.
 
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