IBDaMann
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Usually their commentary is about the musings of dead physicists who cannot be independently questioned for veracity. They tend to ignore the thoughts of living Christian physicists.
Science from the other side of Climate Change
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IBDaMann
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Dear ZenMode, thank you for chanting your pivot question. I, for my part, will be happy to respond to your request after you finally provide me your rational basis for your belief in Global Warming that doesn't violate science, math, or logic.
Your account has been in arrears for over one year, and I would appreciate your immediate attention to this matter.
IBDaMann
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... and you have shown no ice ages or tooth fairies. You have not specified any changeable properties of a climate.
Dutch Uncle
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ZenMode
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Sure, right after you provide me examples of scientific laws, mathematic concepts, etc that don't involve people....that you claim not to involve.
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ZenMode
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BTW, the reason for believing that ice ages happened or CO2 impacting temperatures and/or climate is the same reason you believe in certain scientific laws - scientists (aka people) did the work come up with theories/laws.
IBDaMann
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There are no science laws involving any people. Let's take a look at one: E = m * c^2 - Look, no people in that one.
Wait, I found one ... Leftist_Unhinged = Economic_Improvement * Renewed_Greateness * Trump^4
You got me, there's one.
IBDaMann
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"Somebody did some work" is not a rational basis for a belief.
ZenMode
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Do you believe that equation, E = m * c^2, floated down from the heavens? Is it part of our DNA?There are no science laws involving any people. Let's take a look at one: E = m * c^2 - Look, no people in that one.
Wait, I found one ... Leftist_Unhinged = Economic_Improvement * Renewed_Greateness * Trump^4
You got me, there's one.
ZenMode
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Which of the laws/equations didn't involve work by someone? Again, did they float down from the heavens on gold tablets?
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IBDaMann
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IBDaMann
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That's what I'm pointing out to you. You are making a worthless pivot to the argument that if some human work was involved then we therefore have settled science. It's a stupid argument. In fact, it's so stupid that the only way you could make it even more stupid is to begin arguing that involvement by a human makes it "human activity" and that we obviously therefore have Global Warming.
Absolutely no rational basis for belief in Global Warming has ushered forth from the heavens, so you still have to come up with it yourself.
Your pivot to meaningless chanting is stupid. You are on tap to provide your rational basis for your affirmative belief. There are no humans in any science, regardless of how the science came about. Start providing your rational basis.
IBDaMann
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Does it matter how it came into existence?
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
ZenMode
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Not for you because it debunks your claim about "people".
ZenMode
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The rational reason for believe in global warming is the same rational reason for belief in all of your equations and scientific laws. That believe, some of people who did the work. Those people are scientists. Welcome to reality. I hope the rest of your first day goes well.That's what I'm pointing out to you. You are making a worthless pivot to the argument that if some human work was involved then we therefore have settled science. It's a stupid argument. In fact, it's so stupid that the only way you could make it even more stupid is to begin arguing that involvement by a human makes it "human activity" and that we obviously therefore have Global Warming.
Absolutely no rational basis for belief in Global Warming has ushered forth from the heavens, so you still have to come up with it yourself.
Your pivot to meaningless chanting is stupid. You are on tap to provide your rational basis for your affirmative belief. There are no humans in any science, regardless of how the science came about. Start providing your rational basis.
IBDaMann
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What is my claim about "people"? As far as I know, between the two of us, you are the only one making affirmative claims, and they are all WACKY. Tell me more about how you "know" there were ice ages that you can't define.
T. A. Gardner
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Like chanting "First and second law of thermodynamics!" or, "Stefan-Boltzmann equation!"?That's what I'm pointing out to you. You are making a worthless pivot to the argument that if some human work was involved then we therefore have settled science. It's a stupid argument. In fact, it's so stupid that the only way you could make it even more stupid is to begin arguing that involvement by a human makes it "human activity" and that we obviously therefore have Global Warming.
Absolutely no rational basis for belief in Global Warming has ushered forth from the heavens, so you still have to come up with it yourself.
Your pivot to meaningless chanting is stupid. You are on tap to provide your rational basis for your affirmative belief. There are no humans in any science, regardless of how the science came about. Start providing your rational basis.
IBDaMann
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Show me where any response of mine to the effect of "that violates thermodynamics" or "that violates Stefan-Boltzmann" wasn't preceded by a violation of thermodynamics or of Stefan-Boltzmann.
It's not chanting if preceded by one of those.
Start showing.
ZenMode
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Stop playing dumb.What is my claim about "people"? As far as I know, between the two of us, you are the only one making affirmative claims, and they are all WACKY. Tell me more about how you "know" there were ice ages that you can't define.
"Neither Into the Night nor I point to people." - IBDaMann
Also IBDaMann:
(Paraphrasing) "Here are my favorite scientific laws, which are all named after or discovered by people"
Also IBDaMann:
(Paraphrasing) "Here are my favorite scientific laws, which are all named after or discovered by people"