Scientific facts do not exist

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Oh really ... (put in working link edited)

I back my claims on the foundations of primary issues I address with fact. As far as Canada and China goes, look it up for yourself]

Facts, actuality, certainty, reality, authencity, etc., or whatever semantical game you want to play with the term,
determined by yourself, as I noted, touching on Sophism, easy game to play

And again, you are doing it here to promote a false paradigm, the common denominator in nearly all climate denier rhetoric

 

[Scut Farkus]

it's a little odd spetch, and I like you, but this feels like the bullshitty wordplay that generally typifies propagandists.

 

[Scut Farkus]

just say climate change is a hoax. we don't need to play word games.

 

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Wrong. First, dictionaries do not define words. People define words. The word 'fact' comes from logic. It is simply an assumed predicate. We use them like pronouns to shorten speech and logic.

Your statement happens to be a proof, not just a fact, in the world of logic. It is called the Proof of Identity. ?A->A.

Here is another one ^, does the same thing over and over again, employs semantical riddles to create a false paradigm, old and lame

 

[Into the Night]

Facts, actuality, certainty, reality, authencity, etc., or whatever semantical game you want to play with the term,
determined by yourself, as I noted, touching on Sophism, easy game to play

And again, you are doing it here to promote a false paradigm, the common denominator in nearly all climate denier rhetoric

Who is denying climate?

 

[Into the Night]

just say climate change is a hoax. we don't need to play word games.

Define 'climate change'.

 

[Into the Night]

Here is another one ^, does the same thing over and over again, employs semantical riddles to create a false paradigm, old and lame

No riddle was given. You are hallucinating again.

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Matter is frozen energy. Heat it and it releases that energy.

Heat is and is re created by energy matter and time re creating energy and matter, and melting ice is yet another example of energy matter and time re creating energy and matter ... melting sand into glass, another example ""

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Fact | Definition of Fact by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact

Fact definition is - something that has actual existence.

You can show me all of the sick and twisted excuses for lame ass so called definitions of fact on the planet, yet none of them will ever contest with so much as a shred of validity the fact that it takes time for an asteroid to get from "a" to "b" no matter whether or not there is someone that exists with a system devised to measure the time it takes or no one exists with a system devised to measure the time that it takes for the asteroid to get from "a" to "b" because whether or not there is someone there with a system devised to measure the time that it takes, the fact remains that it still takes time for an asteroid to get from "a" to "b" whether there is someone there to acknowledge the fact or not.

so simple ... years of experience

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Science isn't gadgets.

Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Those theories that engineers use to design light bulbs, television sets, or any other gadget do not destroy the theory or convert it into a fact. No theory is ever proven True.

Facts are what verify or falsify belief and theory. Science is a process that determines recognition of fact. Truth is the garbage that crumbles when pit vs fact every single time.

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

A fact is not a proof. No theory is ever proven True. It is not possible to falsify a belief.

Yes there is. You don't know what 'fact' means. A 'fact' is not a Universal Truth.

The moment someone disagrees with a fact, it is no longer a fact. It is an argument. A fact only remains a fact when all agree.

No such thing as ignorance of a fact. A fact only exists when all agree to it.

Truth is not garbage. A fact is not a Universal Truth or a proof.


What we have here is a complete lack of understanding what a 'fact' is, so I'll explain.

A 'fact' is nothing more than an assumed predicate. We use it like pronouns to shorten speech (and logic). The predicate is simply assumed to be True.

The moment that predicate is questioned, it is no longer a fact. It becomes an argument. Nothing about any fact makes it a proof of any kind or a Universal Truth.

I see your response, I quoted your response and am now responding to your response which is not a belief, or a truth, or a theory it's a fact, factually recognized right here right now.

you also try and force words into my mouth to try and base an argument lmfao (you and thousands of others over the years), where did I ever claim universal truth in my lifetime> I never would because I already know that the truth is the garbage that crumbles when put vs fact every single time.

facts are not agreed upon, they are either recognized or ignored such as the fact that I am responding to you right here right now.

You see to think I should be wasting my time answering for your deliberate ignorance so smarten up I advise.

You don't realize how lucky you are I take the time.

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

All religions are fact based. Those believing in a religion all assume the predicates to that religion to be True. That alone makes them facts.

In Christianity, for example, it is a fact that Christ exists.
Outside of Christianity, of course, that is not a fact.

All religions are factually proven to be based upon foundations of lies (some ridiculous story of how we / everything came into existence) of which you cower from that very factual evidence and continue to do what religion teaches you to do which is quite obviously lie and deceive compulsively and obsessively.

Again, that factual evidence can be found in this video or a brief version in the text photo below, watch how this on cowers from facing fact and ignorance, selfishness and greed are their only excuse.

https://www.brighteon.com/36b271ea-9582-490d-9bba-641d2776bc3a

 

[bhaktajan]

You discovered that there lays latent Absolute Truths that common folk ignore?

"necessity is the Mother on invention"

"Science" actually connotes "The Scientific Method" ---the means of perfecting a RECIPE [aka formula].

Science actually connotes the process of performing an act in a repeatable controlled sequence so as to obtain a planned result.

Your marquee watchword is "FACT".

You are codifying the word "FACT" ---yet you are not doing any codification. Tangential flowery words are skewing your tack.

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Great, so you make up your own definition of words.

I stick with genuine meaning of fact, not false garbage used by imbeciles to replace valid definition.

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

You discovered that there lays latent Absolute Truths that common folk ignore?

"necessity is the Mother on invention"

"Science" actually connotes "The Scientific Method" ---the means of perfecting a RECIPE [aka formula].

Science actually connotes the process of performing an act in a repeatable controlled sequence so as to obtain a planned result.

Your marquee watchword is "FACT".

You are codifying the word "FACT" ---yet you are not doing any codification. Tangential flowery words are skewing your tack.

Lets talk Large Hadron Particle Accelerator. It is a successful formula thus is no longer a science to create it because it exists thanks to a successful forumla making it fact. Usig it to conduct several collision experiementasa doesn't dtract from the fact that the large hadron particle accelrator is not itsef in scientific process becase again the fact remains that it exists.

what you are referring to as scientific process to obtain a planed result is really following an already completed formula because the process already proves the success of the formula as fact thus you follow the process and if you change the formula then it become scientific process again.

All this aside, I still see not one valid example of scientific fact because no such thing exists.

 

[bhaktajan]

Truth and fact is always always always is received via a chain of authorities.


The cosmic manifestation is composed of "Opposites" [aka, duality. hence, ying & yang]

there are three facets of the creation [as per Vedanta]:

Void + every speck of matter/energy + persona [Brahman + paramatma + bhagavan]

Behind each and every morsel of minutia and paraphenalia is a Person.

Every fact existed since time immemorial un-known ---until it was perceived and used and methodically [aka scientifically] improved upon.


Here's one oxymoron: why did it take so long for the bicycle to be invented?
[btw remember that many a historic monarch had at their own whim etc banned many many inventions; Some were isolationists]


Absolute maxim:
"When you want to know who your real father is . . . ask your mother

 

[bhaktajan]

"The God is a Person Principle"

There is a always a personality behind the scene:
"The God is a Person Principle"
(or "Why Atheistic Philosophers can't deny that there is always a personality behind the scene"):

Q. Who is the personification of the American Dollar Bill?
A. George Washington.

Q. Who is the Living Personification of the American Dollar Bill?
A. Donald Trump.

Q. Who is the personification of the State of New York'?
A. The Governor (Mr. Cuomo)

Q. Who is the personification of one of the many regional Counties of New York State?
A. The County Executive.

Q. Who is the personification of one of the many Congressional Districts of New York State?
A. The Congressman/State Representative.

Q. Who is the personification of New York City?
A. The Mayor (Mr. Deblasio).

Q. Who is the personification of one of the many Districts of New York City?
A. The Councilman/Ombudsman.

Q. Who is the personification of any 'Block and Lot' tax-parcel of land?
A. The title barer (The Land owner).

Q. Who is the personification of the any Apartment building?
A. "The Landlord".

Q. Who is the personification of any apartment?
A. The tenant.

Q. Who is the personification of the room with the football and the many toy Trains?
A. One of the male children.

Q. Who is the personification of nursery room?
A. The Baby.

The point of my illustration is:
"Without the presence of the persona, all paraphernalia is without meaning nor purpose for existing"

Best regards,

Bhaktajan


PS:
Q. Who is the personification of a Atheistic Philosophers?
A. His temporary illusion? A theist (a hindu Vaishnava) to argue with?

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

You discovered that there lays latent Absolute Truths that common folk ignore?

"necessity is the Mother on invention"

"Science" actually connotes "The Scientific Method" ---the means of perfecting a RECIPE [aka formula].

Science actually connotes the process of performing an act in a repeatable controlled sequence so as to obtain a planned result.

Your marquee watchword is "FACT".

You are codifying the word "FACT" ---yet you are not doing any codification. Tangential flowery words are skewing your tack.

In other words, if the planned result of the process is successful then it becomes recognized as fact through the success of a formula thus no longer a scientific process to find out the result.

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

"The God is a Person Principle"

There is a always a personality behind the scene:
"The God is a Person Principle"
(or "Why Atheistic Philosophers can't deny that there is always a personality behind the scene"):

Q. Who is the personification of the American Dollar Bill?
A. George Washington.

Q. Who is the Living Personification of the American Dollar Bill?
A. Donald Trump.

Q. Who is the personification of the State of New York'?
A. The Governor (Mr. Cuomo)

Q. Who is the personification of one of the many regional Counties of New York State?
A. The County Executive.

Q. Who is the personification of one of the many Congressional Districts of New York State?
A. The Congressman/State Representative.

Q. Who is the personification of New York City?
A. The Mayor (Mr. Deblasio).

Q. Who is the personification of one of the many Districts of New York City?
A. The Councilman/Ombudsman.

Q. Who is the personification of any 'Block and Lot' tax-parcel of land?
A. The title barer (The Land owner).

Q. Who is the personification of the any Apartment building?
A. "The Landlord".

Q. Who is the personification of any apartment?
A. The tenant.

Q. Who is the personification of the room with the football and the many toy Trains?
A. One of the male children.

Q. Who is the personification of nursery room?
A. The Baby.

The point of my illustration is:
"Without the presence of the persona, all paraphernalia is without meaning nor purpose for existing"

Best regards,

Bhaktajan


PS:
Q. Who is the personification of a Atheistic Philosophers?
A. His temporary illusion? A theist (a hindu Vaishnava) to argue with?

Ah yeah, desperately scrambling to make irrelevant rhetoric the issue perhaps because you have not one valid example of scientific fact because none exists.

FYI, I am no atheist, I am primary factual fundamentalist

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

It is either a fact or a science of which science is a process that determines recognition of fact. Once verified or falsified as fact, it's no longer a science.

edited this in fyi "The harnessing of electricity was a science until harnessing electricity became a successful formula thus a fact we harnessed electricity thus no longer a science but a fact. From there what to do with the electricity developed successful formulas which became fact such as the light bulb, radio, television was no longer a science because it became fact. Each new design for each new tv, radio or light bulb for example became fact through a successful formula. You want to create a new television, the science is making a successful formula and once the formula is successful, it is no longer a science but a fact that from that point that the tv exists."

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David Jeffrey Spetch
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That is the stupidest thing I ever read!