Seattle is dying

Was in downtown Seattle yesterday. First time in about three yrs. it's gotten worse.
Way worse. Well for normal folks.
I'm sure the leftists consider the situation improved.

My youngest daughter now lives in the Haight (Haight-Ashbury in SF) & they were here for a couple days & she was telling us about "the problem" there..

It isn't all over the city, they have certain areas they run them off but in other areas ppl set out food for them....... Some of her neighbors set out food, bags of apples etc...

She also said they won't arrest them for even open drug use, public intoxication etc unless they are a threat & then you have to call several times..
 
My youngest daughter now lives in the Haight (Haight-Ashbury in SF) & they were here for a couple days & she was telling us about "the problem" there..

It isn't all over the city, they have certain areas they run them off but in other areas ppl set out food for them....... Some of her neighbors set out food, bags of apples etc...

She also said they won't arrest them for even open drug use, public intoxication etc unless they are a threat & then you have to call several times..

Wife and I were just talking about the homeless thing this evening. How did this happen? Why was there no real problem 20 yrs ago and longer? What happened? We see homeless sleeping on the street in Anchorage this evening and its 15 degrees out. I'd work to do anything rather than live like that. I'd work just to be inside warm.
 
Wife and I were just talking about the homeless thing this evening. How did this happen? Why was there no real problem 20 yrs ago and longer? What happened? We see homeless sleeping on the street in Anchorage this evening and its 15 degrees out. I'd work to do anything rather than live like that. I'd work just to be inside warm.

We got started talking about when we were going to a "escape room" (game) & her boyfriend runs over to a homeless guy & gives him change & she says whey did you do that, all the homeless in SF you never gave them anything, you just ignore them etc....

Anyway, perhaps it is like the O' frog in a pot, oblivious, slowly being boiled :dunno:

Damn sleeping outdoors @ 15 degrees...... Laying on the ground?? no tent??
 
Which Cities Have the Most Homeless People?

(While a bit dated but Florida is nice & warm & yet??)

Homelessness has surged in some U.S. cities. According to the Wall Street Journal, from 2010 to 2015, homelessness increased 42% in New York City and 12% in Seattle.

A November 2015 report (PDF) by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) ranked the top 10 large cities and top 10 small cities by their homeless populations. These counts were conducted on a single night in January.

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As shown, the top three large cities (or geographic areas) with the biggest homelessness problem are NYC, Los Angeles, and Seattle, while the top three small locations are Honolulu, Orange County, and Suffolk County (on Long Island, NY).

While this is useful information, it does not put homelessness into its proper statistical context. NYC and Los Angeles are two of the largest cities in the world, so it's not a surprise that they have sizable homeless populations. On the other hand, Honolulu is not a particularly large city, yet it has nearly 5,000 homeless.

It would be far better to re-analyze this data as the number of homeless people per 100,000 population, the same way that epidemiologists and demographers measure phenomena such as mortality and homicide*. I have performed that analysis below:

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Now, the data shows something radically different. Considering the large city and small city data as a single set, the cities struggling with the biggest homelessness problem are Springfield (MA), Honolulu, Boston, NYC, and San Francisco. NYC falls from #1 to #5, Los Angeles from #2 to #10, and Seattle from #3 to #9. Sonoma County (ranked #7), which was considered a "small city" by HUD, actually has a big city homelessness problem.

There may be some issues with the data. For instance, it seems odd that a town the size of Springfield, MA (a population of only 154,341) would have 3,000 homeless. Perhaps HUD meant the entire metropolitan statistical area, which has a population of 631,982. If that's the case, then it has 475 homeless per 100,000, which means the magnitude of its homelessness problem is similar to that of Seattle. Likewise, Honolulu's homeless population seems rather high. If HUD was referring to Honolulu County (population: 998,714), the prevalence drops to 491 per 100,000.

The bottom line is that, just like crime data, homelessness data must be analyzed within the context of overall population size.

Source: U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. "The 2015 Annual Homeless Assessment Report (AHAR) to Congress. PART 1: Point-in-Time Estimates of Homelessness." November 2015. (PDF)

*Population estimates were obtained from American FactFinder, a website operated by the U.S. Census Bureau. Eastern Pennsylvania was omitted from the analysis because the geographic region was not clearly defined.
 
The problem is many people work but they cannot afford to rent a place or buy a home. Can you do it on 7.25? It takes over 72 K to live comfortably in Seattle.http://seattlerefined.com/lifestyle/you-need-to-make-72092-a-year-to-live-comfortably-in-seattle The town is so successful that the home prices have driven up way beyond a workers ability to pay.

I'd pick up and move where it's cheaper. Work 40 hrs a week as a janitor or stocking shelves at Walmart in Salinas, KS or Alamorgordo, NM and you can afford an all utilities paid warm little hovel on minimum wage.
 
Seattle city council just got a re-election mandate, so, I'm hoping they will be brave enough to reauthorize the Head Tax, and not immediately cave, and rescind it, this time. It's time to burn this baby down so that a new Seattle can grow from the ashes.

:burn:
 
Sure you would.
I did actually. Found a tiny place in the desert outside Alamogordo,NM for $150/ mo, utilities paid. That was 1992.
Still owed a little on my student loans and I was on a mission to get those evil things paid off ASAP.
After that I moved to Junction City, KS and found a little cave to live in for $125/ mo. Had to pay utilities though. I was saving to buy my first house (which was a dump also). That strategy paid off. Living my dream now!
 
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I did actually. Found a tiny place in the desert outside Alamogordo,NM for $150/ mo, utilities paid. That was 1992.
Still owed a little on my student loans and I was on a mission to get those evil things paid off ASAP.

So? Do you think the rent in NM would go up if millions of poor people moved there? That is not an answer at all. So happy for you. Now present a real option.
 
So? Do you think the rent in NM would go up if millions of poor people moved there? That is not an answer at all. So happy for you. Now present a real option.
So you think Alamogordo and Junction City are the only two options in America the homeless can find work and cheap housing. OK.
 
The problem is many people work but they cannot afford to rent a place or buy a home. Can you do it on 7.25? It takes over 72 K to live comfortably in Seattle.http://seattlerefined.com/lifestyle/you-need-to-make-72092-a-year-to-live-comfortably-in-seattle The town is so successful that the home prices have driven up way beyond a workers ability to pay.

Except that minimum wage in Seattle is $15/hr. When you choose not to build enough housing to meet demand you can make the minimum wage $30/hr and people still can't afford it. (though you will have massive job losses doing that)
 
So? Do you think the rent in NM would go up if millions of poor people moved there? .

So you think Alamogordo and Junction City are the only two options in America the homeless can find work and cheap housing. OK.

I don't remember saying that. I thought that you pointed it out. OK. You were very specific.
Its just two places I happened to live while getting financially established. Nice little towns without having to be concerned about the riff raff that goes with being in a city including high rent. You don't think there's thousands of places like that , especially rural places?
The overwhelming number of homeless have better options than to be drug addled panhandlers living on the street. But they choose homelessness and they choose drugs and alcohol. The vid in the OP has solutions toward the end.
You should watch it.;)
 

What happens to a once thriving city after extreme liberalism gets a stranglehold over it.
Portland has been this way for at least two decades (when I first saw it).
San Francisco's there, San Diego went to shit, L.A. has always been a cesspool.
Our mayor and city council are hell bent on turning Anchorage into one, we're well on our way.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I should have known the Trumpcucks here would fall for this.

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2019/03/18/39630856/komos-seattle-is-dying-news-special-is-killing-me
 
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