Should Two- and Four-Year Degrees Be Free?

Diesel said:
A degree is worthless to people without a formal education. I think it's some form of bitter envy.
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In my chosen career field I have met plenty of college graduates who like to think they are 'better' because of that piece of paper. They do, however, like to get really pissed off and offended when this high school graduate shows that he's more intelligent than they are and not in student loan debt
 
SmarterthanYou said:
that isn't exactly what i said. those that have excelled throughout their academic careers and earned scholarships to higher education are not obtaining totally worthless pieces of paper........but make them all free, and they will all be totally worthless
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What exactly are you saying? Scholarships make those education partially or fully free. What's the difference? If those students are incapable of passing the courses, they will be flunked out and they won't get their degrees. No loss.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
In my chosen career field I have met plenty of college graduates who like to think they are 'better' because of that piece of paper. They do, however, like to get really pissed off and offended when this high school graduate shows that he's more intelligent than they are and not in student loan debt
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I don't think that a college education necessarily makes a person "better" than someone without one, but a college degree is not "worthless".
 
BidenPresident said:
The Biden administration has proposed reforms to ease the student-debt crisis. But a real solution must upend a system of cascading inequities. Restoring the dream of higher education as an equalizer requires a holistic solution that attacks all the sources of the problem: a lack of investment in common goods, growing tuition and student debt and exploitative labor practices that undermine the quality of education.

The rise in tuition costs, combined with the growing economic value of a college degree, fuels the crisis of student debt, which today totals $1.7 trillion. To pay for a year of school, three-quarters of American families pay at least 24 percent of their average family income, even after grants are distributed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/opinion/community-college-student-debt-sanders.html
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As a distinguished holder (almost) of a 2 year AA degree in Internet Trolling, what is YOUR esteemed opinion?

:bigthink:
 
War=Peace said:
As a distinguished holder (almost) of an AA degree in Internet Trolling, what is YOUR esteemed opinion?

:bigthink:
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Which ones? Those are free, ya know?

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And it also comes with free coffee and cookies.
 
BidenPresident said:
The Biden administration has proposed reforms to ease the student-debt crisis. But a real solution must upend a system of cascading inequities. Restoring the dream of higher education as an equalizer requires a holistic solution that attacks all the sources of the problem: a lack of investment in common goods, growing tuition and student debt and exploitative labor practices that undermine the quality of education.

The rise in tuition costs, combined with the growing economic value of a college degree, fuels the crisis of student debt, which today totals $1.7 trillion. To pay for a year of school, three-quarters of American families pay at least 24 percent of their average family income, even after grants are distributed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/opinion/community-college-student-debt-sanders.html
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Do you think professors and universities will work without being paid? Because that's the only way a degree of any sort from any university or college will be "free." Otherwise what you are talking about is taxation and socialist-like programs that take those taxes and pay for someone's education.
I'd also say, if this were the norm or became the norm, the quality of education at every college and university in that system would dramatically fall.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Do you think professors and universities will work without being paid? Because that's the only way a degree of any sort from any university or college will be "free." Otherwise what you are talking about is taxation and socialist-like programs that take those taxes and pay for someone's education.
I'd also say, if this were the norm or became the norm, the quality of education at every college and university in that system would dramatically fall.
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socialism bad
 
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