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So this is a big misunderstanding. Social Democrat countries often do have more economic freedom than Capitalist countries. When you have "small government" the rich get richer and then use their extreme wealth to bribe politicians into making regulations that help them. Truth is, there is no such thing as real "small government." If a country is Capitalist, they have regulations that help the rich. If a country is Social Democrat, they have regulations that help the working-class.
So yeah, the Nordic countries do have more economic freedom because they don't have rich people making regulations to keep small businesses from growing. I'd argue that the German-speaking countries also have more social freedom. Prostitution is legal. And while drugs aren't, the laws against them are often unenforced.

If you look at Sweden, the economic freedom I was talking about isn't that different from our economic freedom. Sweden has been reducing its regulations, not increasing them. This has been an ongoing trend since the 90s. As a result, they've risen in standard of living and median income.

The other Nordic countries have followed suit but at a slower pace. All of these countries had to reduce regulations and government due to economic stagnation. You might be able to argue that their regulatory structures are less corrupt than ours, but reducing regulation has been the key to improvements in quality of life.

All of the Nordic countries are capitalistic. They could be described as Social Democrat as well, but Social Democracy works alongside capitalism. It's quite different from Democratic Socialism, for example.

I disagree on the social freedom thing though. America beats just about any country on that. Yes, we have fewer freedoms to do drugs, but we have vastly greater freedom of speech and an actual right to bear arms.
 
If you look at Sweden, the economic freedom I was talking about isn't that different from our economic freedom. Sweden has been reducing its regulations, not increasing them. This has been an ongoing trend since the 90s. As a result, they've risen in standard of living and median income.

The other Nordic countries have followed suit but at a slower pace. All of these countries had to reduce regulations and government due to economic stagnation. You might be able to argue that their regulatory structures are less corrupt than ours, but reducing regulation has been the key to improvements in quality of life.

Sure, but that doesn't mean they're moving away from Social Democracy. The point is that the regulations they do have are there to help the working-class, not the rich. Although I do think with all of the third world immigration they've had, eventually they will have to cut their social programs. Conservatards will say it's proof that "Socialism" doesn't work, but it will really be Globalism failing Europe.

All of the Nordic countries are capitalistic. They could be described as Social Democrat as well, but Social Democracy works alongside capitalism. It's quite different from Democratic Socialism, for example.

If you define Capitalism as just having a mostly free market, then sure, all of Europe is Capitalist. But that definition is kind of useless in actual application. A mostly free market with little to no regulation results in regulations to help the rich get richer. That's an extremely different result from Social Democracy, which has a mostly free market but doesn't do the "small government" bullshit. That ensures the 1% doesn't become ultra-powerful like in America.

I disagree on the social freedom thing though. America beats just about any country on that. Yes, we have fewer freedoms to do drugs, but we have vastly greater freedom of speech and an actual right to bear arms.

They have more gun control in Europe, but guns are still legal. They don't believe it's a right to own a gun, but Europeans do have the freedom to buy guns.
Speech is probably the one area America does have more freedom on.
 
Sure, but that doesn't mean they're moving away from Social Democracy. The point is that the regulations they do have are there to help the working-class, not the rich. Although I do think with all of the third world immigration they've had, eventually they will have to cut their social programs. Conservatards will say it's proof that "Socialism" doesn't work, but it will really be Globalism failing Europe.

I think it's more than that. The reason Scandinavia did so well near the end of last century and during the first part of the last decade is that they were culturally homogeneous. You can go the Social Democracy route and somewhat succeed if the vast majority of people are on the same page in terms of priorities. It's why even communes do well with small groups of like-minded people.

When you have a society that is very culturally diverse, policies are necessarily more aimed at individualism and capitalism. This is why America is capitalist by design. As it grows more diverse, it will have to maintain this capitalistic approach.

If we instead shift to socialistic practices and a larger welfare state, that will eventually create a massive collapse. This is largely due to the differences in priorities between cultures here.

If you define Capitalism as just having a mostly free market, then sure, all of Europe is Capitalist. But that definition is kind of useless in actual application. A mostly free market with little to no regulation results in regulations to help the rich get richer. That's an extremely different result from Social Democracy, which has a mostly free market but doesn't do the "small government" bullshit. That ensures the 1% doesn't become ultra-powerful like in America.

I see it the opposite way. Regulation, regardless of the regime involved, usually plays favorites. You could argue some regimes are worse about it than others, but politicians have friends that they help and pay favors to. This is true even in the countries that are most oriented toward left causes.

I'm not saying that all regulation is bad, but it is certainly not a guarantee of "income equality." Also, just because a country has a low amount of income inequality, it doesn't mean that the quality of life is good. Plenty of very poor nations have extremely equalized wealth -- nearly everyone is poor.

I wouldn't say that the Nordic countries have low income inequality because of regulation. It seems to have more to do with their cultures. They have strong family units, a high emphasis on education, and a strong work ethic. All that combined can lead to low poverty and low income inequality. They do have high personal tax rates, but this is true for almost all income brackets, not just the rich. Working class people pay a pretty large share of their income in taxes. And their corporate taxes are lower than ours in most cases.

They have more gun control in Europe, but guns are still legal. They don't believe it's a right to own a gun, but Europeans do have the freedom to buy guns.
Speech is probably the one area America does have more freedom on.

Depending on the country, buying a gun in Europe is usually very expensive and very difficult. It can hardly be considered a freedom if you have to pay a huge amount, file excessive paperwork, and be harassed by law enforcement about why you need a gun. In a lot of Europe, you literally have to argue your case for having a gun. The police are free to allow or deny your case as they see fit. That's pretty much asking for a system where bribery is needed.
 
I didn't vote for Trump in order to stay out of war. I voted for him for restrictions on immigration and holding China accountable.

When it comes to foreign policy, neither party is really anti-war. I figured that out after Obama.
This is funny , war you don't care about but fake walls (all 17 feet) and absolutely no increased accountability from China ,then it had when he walked into office. . This is 100% right wing thinking , dump the nuke agreement with Iran for show and get a war instead.
 
Democrats start them as well -- both this century and the last.
Ya but the dems never started one for the increase of their personal wealth , with a 100% lie that they knew was a lie from day one. Don't believe , simply look up code name curve ball. You want stupid then you go along with what Curve ball said to start the war and no it wasn't the democrats fault , they where giving these lies from Bush the baby killer and George Tenet. Who was tooled to support Bushes lie. The same way your leader tools everyone of his staff while you just watch.
 
Maybe you realize you've been had on the Putin narrative. Iran is an ally of Russia, so clearly, the US going to war with them is not in Russia's best interests.
Maybe try this one again. They make money if Iran goes to war , maybe try thinking before commenting.
 
If we actually go to war with Iran, Russia will lose a vital ally. Any gains they make from arms in the short run will be meaningless after Iran is destroyed.

Russia is generally a long term thinking country. They would not like to see an important ally destroyed, because that would weaken their influence in the region.

So it wouldn't really be a boom for Russia in any significant sense.
Good grief , try to run your comment through a reason machine before you spit this silliness out.
 
Yeah, we did destroy Iraq for the most part. We've been rebuilding it for a while, but it's been expensive.

If we go to war with Iran, it's going to probably look like Iraq did in the early 2000s.
and then we turnaround and rebuild Iran, That looks really productive as shown by Iraq. Your point is 100% backwards. Back to the point , your God and leader would start a war to stay in power. That's sick twisted goofiness. I'm just taking it for granted that you support this . Your party is based on the reason of a mad man.
 
Going to war with Iran may end up benefiting Trump, but there really isn't much at all for Russia to gain. I can see your cognitive dissonance spiraling outward, however.
So you believe the lack of reason is on our part, saying that Russia gains in every way from a war in Iran. People who rewrite what is happening now are the same people who use lies to distort history. You are simply wrong and blind to boot.
 
I mean, you could easily google it, but here's a decent starting point. https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/09/15/nation-building-a-success-in-iraq/
This is a joke , in the war who gained the most monetarily and in rebuilding who gained the most. This answer says everything that has to be said about the liars war. Big Winners, Halliburton and Carlyle. If you don't know what that means ,it means Cheney Halliburton, Bush Carlyle. The right are blind stupid. They can't even add 1 and 1
 
The only left-wing system that doesn't have elites is the commune. Left-wing countries like the Nordic ones do have elites, but they have less wealth and power than the elites in right-wing countries because they have a system of Social Democracy that continues redistributing wealth.
I do agree that trying to create a commune on a huge scale is impossible and will probably always lead to a right-wing dictatorship. That's why I'm a Social Democrat, not a Communist.
I will argue that Social Democracy is not socialism. The key ingredient is missing. No more then the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, or Nazi Party, was socialism.
 
I wouldn't consider the Nordic countries to be left wing on economics overall. Socially, you could say they are left wing, but in some ways, Sweden is more free market than us.

Also, Norway, Denmark, and Finland have been trending more towards capitalism over time.
You tool for defining socialism is broken, the worlds biggest capitalistic country is China.
 
Ya but the dems never started one for the increase of their personal wealth , with a 100% lie that they knew was a lie from day one. Don't believe , simply look up code name curve ball. You want stupid then you go along with what Curve ball said to start the war and no it wasn't the democrats fault , they where giving these lies from Bush the baby killer and George Tenet. Who was tooled to support Bushes lie. The same way your leader tools everyone of his staff while you just watch.

There are plenty of war profiteers on the Democrat side. LBJ is a good example.
 
Maybe try this one again. They make money if Iran goes to war , maybe try thinking before commenting.

I already addressed that. Why would Russia put short term arms sales ahead of keeping a longtime ally intact? If we go to war with Iran, that's the end of their influence in Iran.
 
Good grief , try to run your comment through a reason machine before you spit this silliness out.

I did. If you don't understand that we will topple their government after defeating them in a war, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
and then we turnaround and rebuild Iran, That looks really productive as shown by Iraq. Your point is 100% backwards. Back to the point , your God and leader would start a war to stay in power. That's sick twisted goofiness. I'm just taking it for granted that you support this . Your party is based on the reason of a mad man.

I'd prefer we don't go to war with Iran. All I'm saying is that the Russia narrative makes no sense when applied to what Trump looks like he's about to do.
 
So you believe the lack of reason is on our part, saying that Russia gains in every way from a war in Iran. People who rewrite what is happening now are the same people who use lies to distort history. You are simply wrong and blind to boot.

Russia would not benefit from losing an ally. Is it really that hard for you to understand that? Even if I was liberal and hated Trump, I would view it this way. You guys are really fixated on Russia for some reason.
 
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