Yeah,, we have a gun problem. So the rightys say the answer is more guns. We have a drug problem. Is the Republican answer more drugs? Can they think at all ? Like arming teachers. It is sophistical at best. Who pays for the teachers liability insurance. Who pays the wrongful death suits? Who covers the accidental deaths or wounding? Forensics would have a ball determining which bullets are the bad guys and which the teachers. The right is so wrong.
Simple solutions to school shootings
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Superfreak
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1) There is no such thing as an assault weapon. There are assault rifles and they are already banned.
2) You have to then amend the Constitution. Until then, you cannot do so. That said... for the sake of discussion lets assume your plan was in place. How exactly does that stop illegal gun sales?????
Darth Omar
Russian asset
These incidents can be at least lessened by making schools ‘non gun free zones’.
One day it will don on people these psychos go for soft targets. Or we can keep doing what we’ve been doing.
Taichiliberal
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And once again, you demonstrate the lie that is your screen name. An easy google search shows the following: Known as the "gun show loophole," most states do not require background checks for firearms purchased at gun shows from private individuals -- federal law only requires licensed dealers to conduct checks.
And then there is this:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-easiest-states-to-buy-a-gun_us_5735cfa8e4b08f96c182dc38
And to clarify my previous response point:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/12/us/gun-traffickers-smuggling-state-gun-laws.html
I suggest you get your head from up your behind and deal with reality, logic and FACTS.
Taichiliberal
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That's a "private sale" you simpleton....the link I provided was talking about the BLACK MARKET (illegal gun sales by and for the criminal element)! I posted that to show how unlikely it is for a nut like Cruz to go the black market when he could easily go to a licensed dealer (he had no criminal record or outstanding psych record) and get an assault rifle at a reasonable price.
Jeez, learn to READ CAREFULLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY, will ya please?
Taichiliberal
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If you are for reinstating the AWB that means you are in favor of banning guns. General public, these guns are banned from being purchased by you. I lived through the Clinton AWB. Had a gun that was grandfathered in. Here is what it looked like:
After the ban went into effect you couldn’t buy them. They quit manufacturing them. They were banned. I’m not bandying about anything here. Just calling a spade a spade.
Not quite. FYI: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ons-to-school-shootings&p=2231948#post2231948
Taichiliberal
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Taichiliberal
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What part of "NO, STUPID....." did you not understand? Once more for the cheap seats: Cruz went the legal route and got his assault rifle....meaning that he was registered and on file. Someone stated that he could have easily got it illegally. I pointed out that given the high mark up of weapons on the illegal market, Cruz wouldn't go that route (criminals do, not jobs don't). Mind you, if the AWB was in place, Cruz could have gone to a private dealer/owner and bought said weapon. My POINT is that if you remove such weapons from general sales, you remove one more efficient killing machine of choice (i.e., mass shootings in the last 30 years) from the general population. Cruz would have had to use another weapon to commit his crime....but it would not have been his weapon of choice and would not give him the efficiency he craved.
Got that now, stupid?
Taichiliberal
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No, I'm not into that....just the proposals I put forth to try and stem the problem a bit.
Taichiliberal
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1) https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/21/def...sault-weapon-is-a-very-contentious-issue.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon
2) There is no Constitutional Amendment needed to license and register all weapons like we do cars, since that would NOT prohibit anyone who can afford it from purchasing said weapon, as they do now. As for illegal gun sales, my proposal would reduce the number of illegal gun sales (i.e., the iron pipeline), as it would make it more difficult for the criminal element to use shills to purchase their merchandise. Out right theft is yet another law enforcement issue.
It banned FEATURES. You couldn't have a rifle with a detachable magazine and 2 or more of the following.
Pistol grip
Bayonet lug
Grenade launcher
Flash hider
Folding/telescoping stock.
Any one of those features on a semi auto rifle was fine. So if you made an AR without a flash hider or bayonet lug, it was legal.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-bill/3355/text
Taichiliberal
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Has it dawned on you that America had it's period where any and everyone could purchase a gun? How did that work out? If morphed into local town sheriffs not allowing guns into towns, gun registration, etc., etc. But let's say for the sake of argument that we allow gun owning teachers to carry (concealed or otherwise) on school grounds.....are these teachers going to be vetted and trained in how to use said weapon in a crisis situation? Psych evaluations? Intense background checks? And who is going to pay for all of this, because teachers around the country can't even get a decent budget for stationary yet money will be provided for a glock?
And all this BS because flunkies and dupes for the gun manufacturers want unnecessary weapons in circulation. GMAFB!
Taichiliberal
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Here's how I educated your like minded brethren:
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ons-to-school-shootings&p=2231948#post2231948
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ons-to-school-shootings&p=2231984#post2231984
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ons-to-school-shootings&p=2232011#post2232011
read it all carefully and comprehensively, and you should see how your myopia erroneously supports your contentions.
I am quoting DIRECTLY from the law you dipshit. Do you not know how to read it?
TaiChi, you did not "educate" me. I was trying to politely point out an error in your view of the way the law was actually written and enforced. Now you can go fuck yourself. You are flat out wrong.
Yes guys, Tach was wrong. The pistol shown was banned for purchase after the Clinton AWB. That’s a fact.
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YEP, it just looks scary and that means it's deadlier.
BINGO! The liberal liars won't comprehend this; it is beyond their mental capacity.
Buy backs do nothing but give people who stole them or bring in useless weapons extra cash.
There you go with the moronic meme's again. And idiots like you wonder why we don't take your lunacy serious and continue to point at you and laugh.
This is just pure unadulterated stupid here. Yay you!
SmarterthanYou
rebel
it infringes on MY rights as an American. THAT is my beef with that. I understand that YOU don't care about certain rights, your prerogative as an American, but it is NOT your right to interfere with MY rights.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
there is no 'gun show loophole'. again, you know jack shit apparently. the chronology of this myth starts at the base of the ATF not wanting every kitchen table seller having access to the NICS system for background checks. see, back at that time, private sellers were considered dealers and they also had to perform checks on sales. So the compromise from the ATF was to only require LICENSED dealers, not some joe schmoe who made a grand a month selling guns. so there is NO 'gun show loophole'