So we have a US born American citizen being held without trial
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IBDaMann
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The US is not under an enemy occupation.
Invalid pronoun. The child born in the United States is not a plural. Your problem is that you are conflating the child born in the US with the parents who were not. The child is not the parents. Keep working at it.
IBDaMann
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You are correct. It is not the Constitution that states that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, not the least of which are Life, Liberty and the pusuit of Happiness. It is the Declaration of Independence which is understood to be the statement by the States as their full intent behind the Constitution.
- Declaration of Independence -
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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Into the Night
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Nope. See Articles II and III.
Into the Night
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Yes. People are arrested and held before any hearing. For a federal crime, you can be held for 30 days without a hearing. For a crime against the People of Washington, you can be held 72 hours without a hearing.
Into the Night
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Go learn English. Your word games won't work.
Into the Night
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Go learn English.
Into the Night
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You don't give a damn about the rule of law or process. You don't give a damn about the Constitution or any State constitution.
I don't want your principals. Don't try to start a war you cannot win, Pretender.
Illiteracy: Plural used for singular. Misspelled words. Missing dash. Use of comma instead of semicolon.
Into the Night
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What is 'MS-16', Pretender????
Illiteracy: Capitalization of common noun.
Logic errors: Buzzword fallacies. Void question.
Into the Night
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Buzzword fallacy. That won't work, Pretender.
Bai Lan
Let It Rot
I sorry you don't understand what a paradox is.
Bai Lan
Let It Rot
Into the Night
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All people in America are Americans. It doesn't matter if they are living in Mexico, El Salvador, Brazil, Venezuela, Canada, or the United States.
Illiteracy: Capitalization of common nouns. Possessive used where there is no possessive.
Yes, they are, Pretender.
Illegal aliens have no right to remain in the United States.
Into the Night
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Criminals have rights, just as any person. If they've had a hearing, which determines they are illegal aliens (even if being tried for something else!), they can be deported.
They can be held in a federal facility for 30 days without a hearing, if they haven't had one yet.
The Florida case was NOT by any federal officers or ICE. It was by the Florida State troopers and was not a federal action or detention. The 'law' the troopers used was itself unconstitutional. He was held 24 hours before being released by a federal court order.
Into the Night
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Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.
Into the Night
Verified User
How?
A firearm is not a right. Self defense, however, IS. Both federal and State governments are bound by the 2nd amendment, however.
Not possible (unless you cut out their tongue or something!). There is no right to freedom of speech. The 1st amendment applies only to the federal government. State governments are not affected by it (although most have similar wording in their own constitutions).
There no right to criminal activity.
You seem determined to make it very clear that you are completely out of touch with reality. You might want to stop for a moment before you try to argue that non citizens are not a person under the Constitution because it would only make you look like more of a fool.
Fourth Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Fifth Amendment
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, ...
14th Amendment
Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Bai Lan
Let It Rot
for citizens.
this dude should not be here.
we failed at the invasion level.
this is why you lost and will continue to lose.
Bai Lan
Let It Rot
you're a shittly hypocritical lawyer who only wants due process for enemies.
you will keep losing.