So we have a US born American citizen being held without trial

[Bai Lan]

What 'process'???

the immigration process.

if you sneak across you get no rights.

are you fucking dumb?

 

[Into the Night]

The US is not under an enemy occupation.

Yes it is. Illegal aliens are enemy occupation.

Invalid pronoun.

No pronoun was used, IBD.

The child born in the United States is not a plural.

I didn't talk about a child here.

Your problem is that you are conflating the child born in the US with the parents who were not. The child is not the parents. Keep working at it.

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that just conflated a child with the parents.
You cannot blame your problem on me or anybody else!

 

[Into the Night]

ok secret totalitarian ccp butt boy.

Random words. No apparent coherency.

 

[Into the Night]

we do value the democratic nature of our elections, dumbass.

The United States was never a democracy. Go learn English.

 

[Into the Night]

a firearm is a right in america.

dumbass.

A firearm is not a right. it's a type of weapon.

 

[Bai Lan]

The United States was never a democracy. Go learn English.

we are republic with democratically elected positions.

 

[Bai Lan]

A firearm is not a right. it's a type of weapon.

you're a fucking idiot.

 

[Into the Night]

who said there's a right to criminal activity?

You did. So have others, like the Pretender and Sybil.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

for citizens.

this dude should not be here.

we failed at the invasion level.

this is why you lost and will continue to lose.

Person is not a citizen in the Constitution. It is every person even those not citizens. This is obvious if you read the Constitution. If the term person only included citizens then much of the Constitution would have absurd meanings. Slaves were not citizens but yet they are referred to as persons.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

you're a shittly hypocritical lawyer who only wants due process for enemies.

you will keep losing.

Due process for all persons would not be just due process for some persons. It means all persons, citizens and non citizens alike.

It seems it's you that is out of touch with reality.

 

[Into the Night]

we are republic with democratically elected positions.

The United States was never a democracy. Officers of the United States are elected according to the procedure outlined in the Constitution of the United States.

Democracies have no constitution and no elected officers.

Go learn English.

 

[Into the Night]

you're a fucking idiot.

Mantra 1a. Lame.

 

[volsrocks]

Due process for all persons would not be just due process for some persons. It means all persons, citizens and non citizens alike.

It seems it's you that is out of touch with reality.

If u bypass the port of entry u loose some rights and can be deported without a hearing

 

[Into the Night]

Person is not a citizen in the Constitution. It is every person even those not citizens. This is obvious if you read the Constitution. If the term person only included citizens then much of the Constitution would have absurd meanings. Slaves were not citizens but yet they are referred to as persons.

Slaves were citizens of the United States. They didn't have voting rights, and could not carry a firearm, and had no liberty, but citizens they were...even if they were brought here against their will.

The only people seeking the abuse of human beings like this are Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

Due process for all persons would not be just due process for some persons. It means all persons, citizens and non citizens alike.

It seems it's you that is out of touch with reality.

Buzzword fallacy (due process, reality, person, citizen).

 

[Into the Night]

If u bypass the port of entry u loose some rights and can be deported without a hearing

How can you lose what never was?? An illegal alien never had any right to remain in the United States.
Yes...under certain circumstances, they can be deported without a hearing of any kind.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Slaves were citizens of the United States. They didn't have voting rights, and could not carry a firearm, and had no liberty, but citizens they were...even if they were brought here against their will.

You really like to show your arguments are bullshit. If slaves are citizens then the 14th wasn't written to make blacks citizens so it shows how ridiculous and disingenuous your argument about the 14th is.

The only people seeking the abuse of human beings like this are Democrats.

This is an abuse of due process. If due process can be abused for one person it can be abused for all.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Buzzword fallacy (due process, reality, person, citizen).

******* Idiot alert *******
When someone claims the words in the Constitution are buzzwords they are an idiot.

 

[Into the Night]

You really like to show your arguments are bullshit. If slaves are citizens then the 14th wasn't written to make blacks citizens so it shows how ridiculous and disingenuous your argument about the 14th is.

The 14th amendment did not end slavery.

This is an abuse of due process. If due process can be abused for one person it can be abused for all.

Buzzword fallacy (due process).

 

[Into the Night]

******* Idiot alert *******
When someone claims the words in the Constitution are buzzwords they are an idiot.

You are not the Constitution.