Some questions for our leftist friends at JPP.

Robo

Robo

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Some questions for our leftist friends at JPP.

Here’s a short easy quiz about healthcare and healthcare insurance. Respond if you dare!

By what measure do you place your faith and trust in the federal government to operate your healthcare and thereby your healthcare insurance?

What % of your income are you willing to pay in taxes for a Federal Single Payer Plan?

How much healthcare services will you expect from your Federal Single Payer Plan?

What quality healthcare will you expect and accept from your Federal Single Payer Plan?

How long are you willing to wait on a waiting list for doctor’s appointments and hospital emissions and services?

Should every American pay the same for your Federal Single Payer System, or should some folks pay more than others?

Who do you want to decide what medicines and treatments you can have, your doctors and you, or a federal government bureaucrat?

Who do you want to be in charge of your end of life decisions, (“pulling the plug”) on you and your family, you and your family and your doctor, or a federal bureaucrat?

Should all “for profit” healthcare insurance be abolished?

How much do you believe a Federal Single Payer System would cost in America and Where should we find the money to pay for it?
 
Typical leftist response! Can't define their positions on anything. Can't and won't answer the tough questions. No surprise there!!!!
 
Robo said:
By what measure do you place your faith and trust in the federal government to operate your healthcare and thereby your healthcare insurance
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Single payer doesn't put the government in charge of health care.

It puts the government in charge of administration of reimbursements to your doctor, which is what Medicare already does for 65,000,000 people...more than any other insurance plan. And it does it with overhead of 1% vs. overhead of 15-20% for private insurers.

So you start off this post with a faulty premise and false choice.
 
Robo said:
What % of your income are you willing to pay in taxes for a Federal Single Payer Plan?
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I'd pay as much as an 8% payroll tax to replace what I pay on premiums, deductibles, copays, and prescription drugs.

Bernie Sanders' plan, that the Koch Bros determined would save us at least $1T, sets the individual rate at 4%.
 
LV426 said:
Single payer doesn't put the government in charge of health care.
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WRONG; and stupid.

LV426 said:
It puts the government in charge of administration of reimbursements to your doctor, which is what Medicare already does fir 65,000,000 people...more than any other insurance plan.
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Single payer doesn't put the government in charge of health care Then: It puts the government in charge

This moron is too stupid to comprehend his lunacy. :laugh:

LV426 said:
So you start off this post with a faulty premise and false choice.
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So you start yours by ignoring the questions and rambling on about bullshit you know nothing about? Yay you! :clap:

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Robo said:
What quality healthcare will you expect and accept from your Federal Single Payer Plan?
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Better than what we have now, as most first world democracies beat us in every single measurable health metric including cost per patient.

A single payer plan would force improved outcomes rather than profitable treatment of symptoms.
 
Robo said:
How long are you willing to wait on a waiting list for doctor’s appointments and hospital emissions and services?
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These wait time worries vary by geography.

For instance, you're going to wait a lot longer for medical care in rural Idaho than you would in Manhattan because there are more doctors in Manhattan than rural Idaho.

Also, what is the wait time for someone with no insurance coverage?
 
Robo said:
Should every American pay the same for your Federal Single Payer System, or should some folks pay more than others?
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You pay a flat payroll tax on 100% of your income.

Sanders' proposal was a 4% payroll tax that replaces premiums, deductibles, the current Medicare tax, and copays.

The average income in the country is $53K.
Workers spend an average amount of $5K in premiums and $1,500 in deductibles for employer-provided plans.

So using math...we see that Sanders' payroll tax proposal would save most workers money on health care costs:

Average Employer-Provided Plan Individual Contribution: $5,000
Average Employer-Provided Plan Deductible: $1,500
Average OOPE for Employer-Provided Plan: $6,500

4% x National Average Income $53,000 = $2,120.

Is $2,120 > or < $6,500 in Conservatardia?
 
LV426 said:
Better than what we have now, as most first world democracies beat us in every single measurable health metric including cost per patient.
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LIE and LAME. So when asked anything, you just erupt like a robot with the leftist narrative. Got it. ;)

LV426 said:
A single payer plan would force improved outcomes rather than profitable treatment of symptoms.
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LIE and LAME. It leads to worse outcomes like confiscatory taxation, long wait times and shortages of drugs, technology and doctors. If you had a brain, you could comprehend the OBVIOUS.

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LV426 said:
These wait time worries vary by geography.
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LIE and LAME. The wait time hits everyone.

LV426 said:
For instance, you're going to wait a lot longer for medical care in rural Idaho than you would in Manhattan because there are more doctors in Manhattan than rural Idaho.
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LIE and LAME. It hits EVERYONE.

LV426 said:
Also, what is the wait time for someone with no insurance coverage?
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Who doesn't have insurance you brain dead lying dunce?

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Robo said:
Who do you want to decide what medicines and treatments you can have, your doctors and you, or a federal government bureaucrat?
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Your doctors decide in a single payer plan.

Right now, an insurance company executive decides that.
 
LV426 said:
You pay a flat payroll tax on 100% of your income.

Sanders' proposal was a 4% payroll tax that replaces premiums, deductibles, the current Medicare tax, and copays.

The average income in the country is $53K.
Workers spend an average amount of $5K in premiums and $1,500 in deductibles for employer-provided plans.

So using math...we see that Sanders' payroll tax proposal would save most workers money on health care costs:

Average Employer-Provided Plan Individual Contribution: $5,000
Average Employer-Provided Plan Deductible: $1,500
Average OOPE for Employer-Provided Plan: $6,500

4% x National Average Income $53,000 = $2,120.

Is $2,120 > or < $6,500 in Conservatardia?
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Another massive pile of BULL SHIT! You seem to be quite full of it.

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Robo said:
Some questions for our leftist friends at JPP.

Here’s a short easy quiz about healthcare and healthcare insurance. Respond if you dare!

By what measure do you place your faith and trust in the federal government to operate your healthcare and thereby your healthcare insurance?

What % of your income are you willing to pay in taxes for a Federal Single Payer Plan?

How much healthcare services will you expect from your Federal Single Payer Plan?

What quality healthcare will you expect and accept from your Federal Single Payer Plan?

How long are you willing to wait on a waiting list for doctor’s appointments and hospital emissions and services?

Should every American pay the same for your Federal Single Payer System, or should some folks pay more than others?

Who do you want to decide what medicines and treatments you can have, your doctors and you, or a federal government bureaucrat?

Who do you want to be in charge of your end of life decisions, (“pulling the plug”) on you and your family, you and your family and your doctor, or a federal bureaucrat?

Should all “for profit” healthcare insurance be abolished?

How much do you believe a Federal Single Payer System would cost in America and Where should we find the money to pay for it?
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Medicare works .. and has for a long time.. That's what single payer /private delivery looks like. The government doesn't make medical decisions... Insurance carriers do.

Can't you face being wrong?
 
Robo said:
Who do you want to be in charge of your end of life decisions, (“pulling the plug”) on you and your family, you and your family and your doctor, or a federal bureaucrat?
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We actually support assisted suicide so that the patient can make the decision for themselves.
 
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