The Koch Bros are opposed to single payer.
However, their own study confirms it will save on health care costs.
Some questions for our leftist friends at JPP.
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The Koch Bros are opposed to single payer.
However, their own study confirms it will save on health care costs.
Poor dishonest dumb fuck; he doesn't think single payer involves massive Government regulation. Yes, liberals really are THAT fucking dumb OR, that fucking dishonest.
So wouldn't that mean every other business would save $$ too????????
So thanks for confirming that the single payer saves businesses money that they can use to increase wages or invest in the company!
What would those businesses do with the extra money they saved from not having to pay for benefits anymore? They could increase worker wages!
So now you're making the argument that business leaders are greedy shitweasels. So why not tax the shit out of them, then?
Every position you hold seems to contradict itself.
Robo
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well friend, I don't buy into the ratings put out by a left biased WHO cartel. I believe my American "for profit" healthCARE is among the best on earth. My doctors have kept me alive for nearly 83 years now. My care has been professional,speedy and performed in the best and cleanest of doctor's offices and hospitals. I believe I couldn't get as good of care in any single payer system. My insurance is reasonable and was much better before the federal government meddled in it especially Obamacare. I never had to make a co-pay until Obamacare and my deductible only went up after Obamacare.
Surely you can explain to me how that's possible without the incentive of "for profit" and without regulation by government's "gun in the back" tactics, right?
That's because you're mentally ill.
You refuse to accept what people tell you when it ruins whatever inherent bias you have.
What a coward.
One thing we can learn trying to argue with idiots like LV426. It is fruitless because they don't care about facts and, it will always lead to the never ending circle of stupidity.
The bottom line for all of LV426's arguments; GOVERNMENT IS GREAT!!! He really is THAT fucking dumb.
The bottom line for all of LV426's arguments; GOVERNMENT IS GREAT!!! He really is THAT fucking dumb.
"Among" the best?
So who else is the best, and what type of systems do they have?
And it's "among" the best in what regard? Not in cost. Not in life expectancy. Not in infant mortality. Not in heart disease rates. Not in obesity.
If it's so great, why is Rand Paul going to Canada for his health care? Is Canada "among the best" too? What type of system does Canada have?
Sen. Rand Paul Is Having Surgery in Canada, Where Healthcare Is Publicly Funded
http://fortune.com/2019/01/14/rand-paul-surgery-canada/
You sad, pathetic dumb fuck. You seem to be stuck on stupid:
Paul, however, is scheduled for outpatient surgery at a private hospital, later reports clarified. He will be going to Shouldice Hospital, which claims to be a world leader in “non-mesh hernia repair,” Bloomberg reports.
OK, but life expectancy is higher in every other first world, single payer country.
Also, you can thank Medicare, since that's what you're on. A government-run plan.
Who reimburses your provider after they treat you has no effect on the quality of care you receive before your doctor is reimbursed.
You doctor doesn't treat you better or worse depending on who is reimbursing them...if they do, then they commit malpractice.
Also, since you're 83 you're on Medicare, which is government-run. And clearly Medicare has served you well. So since it has served your old, withered ass so well, why wouldn't it serve everyone else just as well?
HORSE. SHIT.
You've been on Medicare for the last 20 years. Obamacare didn't do anything to Medicare other than make it outcome-based, which improves quality of care your doctor delivers.
So you rant and scream and rail about a government-run single payer while using a government-run payer for your health care (Medicare).
I think you're too old and too stupid to realize how cognitively dissonant you are.
Bullshit.
When Obamacare went into effect, you were 74 years old...which means you were already on a government-run plan (Medicare).
You're lying when you said the ACA had to make you pay deductibles, since the ACA had nothing to do with Medicare Advantage plans.
Your story doesn't add up.
Medicare.
Robo
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Well my friend have you considered that America already has a doctor shortage? What do you believe that shortage will be when single payer covers everybody? We have to import doctors now and only can do it because we have a “for profit” system that nicely and fairly rewards doctors. I have no reservations about predicting that America will see outrageously long waiting times whenever the feds begin their single payer operation. Wait times are seriously long now in single payer countries and those countries have a fraction of the population America has. How many doctors, doctor’s offices, hospitals and emergency rooms have you determined it will take to deliver reasonable wait times to an American population of 300-400 million people?
So your solution is to deny people access to doctors because you're afraid your access might be affected if they are given access?
Well, thanks to Reagan, you can go to an ER doctor now. So those who aren't covered already have access to doctors.
Also, a single payer focused on outcomes instead of symptoms will have the net effect of less medical use, not more.
Since you have very little experience in health care, let me clue you into something: Doctors don't become doctors for the profits.
Right, you make bad predictions all the time. So why would this be any different.
Wait times won't be affected by single payer...but your choice for which doctor you want to see will expand since a single payer renders provider networks moot.