South Side man living proof that new federal health insurance exchange site can work

Granule said:
Minimalist christiecommunistfan915 thinks that a success story about one single person makes Obamacare wildly successful for everyone else. That may be the case for Democrats, because most of them are dumb shits, anyways.

You keep digging, shill. ;)
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LOL, you've got to try harder than that, Mugabe. Anecdotal evidence is all you've got in your anti-Obamacare rants.

I've said all along that success or failure isn't going to be measurable for at least a year after full implementation of the law.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I'm glad there is no restriction due to pre-existing conditions......I have a pre-existing condition.....of course I also had a pre-existing health care plan that was stuck with me because I had the plan before I had the pre-existing conditon.......now because of the ACA I no longer have the pre-existing health care plan.....
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Prove It!
 
christiefan915 said:
Exactly. You got yours, doesn't matter if anyone else might be struggling.
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????.....I got mine before Obamacare....it is now gone.....I had it, I don't have it......does that matter to you?......by the way I had it from BC/BS of Michigan, which company covered 87% of the people in Michigan......were we all struggling?......
 
Dantès said:
And who would all those be exactly? Since you seem to have such horror stories like the rest of the apocalyptic "sky is falling" screamers let's see some evidence from somewhere other than Brietbart, Glenn Beck's fiery, Blaze, Limbaugh's cigar or the main source of fear and fear mongering Rupert Murdoch's asshole!

So let's see it?
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If it wasn't so, why would "The Great Leader" come out and address it as so. It's not hard to believe that people who only watch Pravda deny the facts.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
????.....I got mine before Obamacare....it is now gone.....I had it, I don't have it......does that matter to you?......by the way I had it from BC/BS of Michigan, which company covered 87% of the people in Michigan......were we all struggling?......
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Maybe Michigan laws made your BC/BS a non-profit? Because according to this site, that's not the case everywhere.

Major For-Profit Insurance Companies in the U.S.

  • Blue Cross/Blue Shield
    Founded in the 1920s, Blue Cross/Blue Shield (BCBS) is one of the oldest health insurance companies in the United States. It is also the largest health insurance company in the U.S., providing services to about 1/3 of insured Americans through approximately 40 insurance plans. In some states, BCBS effectively has a monopoly on health insurance. BCBS spends roughly 82% of premiums on medical benefits.
  • United Health Group
    United Health Group, founded in the 1970s, offers health insurance plans to businesses and employers. United Health Group spends roughly 82% of premiums on medical benefits.
  • Aetna
    Offering health insurance plans and services to individuals, families, and government employees, Aetna (founded in the 1860s) began offering group consumer plans in the 1930s. Aetna spends roughly 81% of premiums on medical benefits.
  • Humana
    Humana specializes in offering group health insurance plans to employers. Humana spends roughly 84% of premiums on medical benefits.
  • TriCare
    TriCare focuses on offering insurance to military servicepersons and their families.
  • http://healthcareprovider.info/forprofit/
 
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, a nonprofit organization, provides and administers health benefits to more than 4.3 million members residing in Michigan in addition to members of Michigan-headquartered groups who reside outside the state.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Cross_Blue_Shield_of_Michigan
 
Big Money said:
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, a nonprofit organization, provides and administers health benefits to more than 4.3 million members residing in Michigan in addition to members of Michigan-headquartered groups who reside outside the state.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Cross_Blue_Shield_of_Michigan
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Prior to the Tax Reform Act of 1986, organizations administering Blue Cross Blue Shield were tax exempt under 501(c)(4) as social welfare plans. However, the Tax Reform Act of 1986 revoked that exemption because the plans sold commercial-type insurance. They became 501(m) organizations, subject to federal taxation but entitled to "special tax benefits"[SUP][8][/SUP] under IRC 833.[SUP][9][/SUP] In 1994, the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association changed to allow its licensees to be for-profit corporations.[SUP][4][/SUP] Some plans[SUP][specify][/SUP] are still considered not-for-profit at the state level.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Cross_Blue_Shield_Association
 
What about these guys....?

Veteran House Democratic aides are sick over the insurance prices they’ll pay under Obamacare, and they’re scrambling to find a cure.
“In a shock to the system, the older staff in my office (folks over 59) have now found out their personal health insurance costs (even with the government contribution) have gone up 3-4 times what they were paying before

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...es-health-insurance-100226.html#ixzz2lLM7JOlg

What about these people ?

As of this week, not one of the plans for sale on New York’s health benefit exchange would cover treatment at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, one of the world’s largest and most respected cancer hospitals.
That could mean that the 615,000 individuals and 450,000 small business employees expected to eventually get their insurance through the exchange would have to go someplace else for treatment, or pay the bill out of their own pockets.
http://tinyurl.com/p2yoltu

Need I go on ?
 
christiefan915 said:
Maybe Michigan laws made your BC/BS a non-profit? Because according to this site, that's not the case everywhere.

Major For-Profit Insurance Companies in the U.S.

  • Blue Cross/Blue Shield
    Founded in the 1920s, Blue Cross/Blue Shield (BCBS) is one of the oldest health insurance companies in the United States. It is also the largest health insurance company in the U.S., providing services to about 1/3 of insured Americans through approximately 40 insurance plans. In some states, BCBS effectively has a monopoly on health insurance. BCBS spends roughly 82% of premiums on medical benefits.
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  • Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan is one of the largest independent licensees of Blue Cross Blue Shield Association. Currently it is headquartered in 600 E. Lafayette Blvd. in downtown Detroit. Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, a nonprofit organization, provides and administers health benefits to more than 4.3 million members residing in Michigan in addition to members of Michigan-headquartered groups who reside outside the state.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Cross_Blue_Shield_of_Michigan

    there is a separate BC/BS in every state.....they do this because states regulate the insurance industry and it isn't possible for one company to meet fifty different sets of regulations......

    this however is changing, as of January 1, 2014 BC/BS of Michigan is reincorporating as a mutual company.....this will mean that it no longer is restricted to the 7% administrative fee Michigan had imposed on it, but will be eligible for the 20% administrative fee that the ACA provides.....
 
christiefan915 said:
Prior to the Tax Reform Act of 1986, organizations administering Blue Cross Blue Shield were tax exempt under 501(c)(4) as social welfare plans. However, the Tax Reform Act of 1986 revoked that exemption because the plans sold commercial-type insurance. They became 501(m) organizations, subject to federal taxation but entitled to "special tax benefits"[SUP][8][/SUP] under IRC 833.[SUP][9][/SUP] In 1994, the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association changed to allow its licensees to be for-profit corporations.[SUP][4][/SUP] Some plans[SUP][specify][/SUP] are still considered not-for-profit at the state level.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Cross_Blue_Shield_Association
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????...."non-profit" is a state classification for corporations within its jurisdiction.....those laws deal with the uses to which money may be put after it is received by the corporation......501 status is an IRS classification.......it deals with whether the federal government will tax that money.......there are many non-profits that don't have 501 status.....the most sought after 501 status is 501c under which not only the "profits" of a corporation are untaxed but also contributions made to it are deductible by the donors.....
 
NOVA said:
What about these guys....?

Veteran House Democratic aides are sick over the insurance prices they’ll pay under Obamacare, and they’re scrambling to find a cure.
“In a shock to the system, the older staff in my office (folks over 59) have now found out their personal health insurance costs (even with the government contribution) have gone up 3-4 times what they were paying before

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...es-health-insurance-100226.html#ixzz2lLM7JOlg

What about these people ?

As of this week, not one of the plans for sale on New York’s health benefit exchange would cover treatment at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, one of the world’s largest and most respected cancer hospitals.
That could mean that the 615,000 individuals and 450,000 small business employees expected to eventually get their insurance through the exchange would have to go someplace else for treatment, or pay the bill out of their own pockets.
http://tinyurl.com/p2yoltu

Need I go on ?
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Anecdotal evidence? Your pal granule says anecdotal evidence isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
 
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