Talk of bringing back the MILITARY DRAFT even though 13th amendment bans it

[Text Drivers are Killers]

All this war talk from Pedodent Biden is making WW3 look more and more likely . The draft is clearly banned by the constitution if that matters.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am13.html

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

That's pretty clear cut. But we have had many drafts since the 13A was ratified in 1865. The govt ignores the constitution whenever it pleases.

 

[Nordberg]

All this war talk from Pedodent Biden is making WW3 look more and more likely . The draft is clearly banned by the constitution if that matters.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am13.html

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

That's pretty clear cut. But we have had many drafts since the 13A was ratified in 1865. The govt ignores the constitution whenever it pleases.

In 19i8 the Supremes ruled a draft legal and constitution using the power to raise money for and declare war. They ruled the draft is a necessary part of that power.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

In 19i8 the Supremes ruled a draft legal and constitution using the power to raise money for and declare war. They ruled the draft is a necessary part of that power.

The courts have no authority to rewrite the constitution. You want to do that you have to go thru the amending process. THINK

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The draft is legal, but highly unpopular.

Also of note is that anywhere from 30 to 50% of draftees are rejected for service with the higher percentage being in dense urban areas and the deep South.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Staffing the military properly in all likelihood is not going to happen. It is already not happening, and the problem will get worse for several reasons. Its baked.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The military is best staffed at all levels by those physically and mentally qualified to a fixed standard to do so. The problem with that is many who are accepted now would be found unfit, and the Leftist social engineering would be tossed out completely. The Left needs politics to dominate the military even if it means the military is completely incompetent.

Witness how pathetic the Russian military is at the moment. That is partially due to politics dominating competence.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The military is best staffed at all levels by those physically and mentally qualified to a fixed standard to do so. The problem with that is many who are accepted now would be found unfit, and the Leftist social engineering would be tossed out completely. The Left needs politics to dominate the military even if it means the military is completely incompetent.

Witness how pathetic the Russian military is at the moment. That is partially due to politics dominating competence.

Helicopter Parenting and destroyed schools creating a several decades of very often weak and unprepared for life adults sure did not help.

 

[Yakuda]

The draft is legal, but highly unpopular.

Also of note is that anywhere from 30 to 50% of draftees are rejected for service with the higher percentage being in dense urban areas and the deep South.

Just imagine the leftists freaks that would show up these days for the draft. They'd asked their DI for a safe space form the verbal "trauma" of boot camp

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

The draft is legal,

How do you reconcile it with the 13A?

 

[archives]

Draft has been up before the SCOTUS numerous times and has been maintained as legitimate, just last July the Court refused to even hear a case involving it, all comes under implied powers

 

[T. A. Gardner]

How do you reconcile it with the 13A?

Because that dodge has been tried numerous times now by those that don't want to be drafted. The two operative parts of the Constitution that apply to allowing a draft are first that the states can raise militia and that the militia consists, at least in theory, of all males 18 years of age or older. This is then coupled to Article I, section 8, clause 15 that permits Congress to call out the militia in time of war.

https://constitution.congress.gov/b...s,to obey the President's call of the militia.

That in effect gives Congress the Right to call up all males 18 years or older, or some portion thereof, in time of war, insurrection, etc. So, a draft would likely be illegal in a period of peace with no declared war, or in a war that was not formally declared by congressional legislation. Thus, the draft is legal in times of war, and the 13th Amendment doesn't apply to the military in that situation.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

She can always get a 9 month deferment for pregnancy...

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

All this war talk from Pedodent Biden is making WW3 look more and more likely . The draft is clearly banned by the constitution if that matters.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am13.html

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

That's pretty clear cut. But we have had many drafts since the 13A was ratified in 1865. The govt ignores the constitution whenever it pleases.

Finally, as we are unable to conceive upon what theory the exaction by government from the citizen of the performance of his supreme and noble duty of contributing to the defense of the rights and honor of the nation, as the result of a war declared by the great representative body of the people, can be said to be the imposition of involuntary servitude in violation of the prohibitions of the Thirteenth Amendment, we are constrained to the conclusion that the contention to that effect is refuted by its mere statement.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/245/366/

I think that SCOTUS just called you stupid.

 

[Legion]

She can always get a 9 month deferment for pregnancy...

Or a pregnant flight suit.

Maternity Flight Suits Are Just One Important Way the Military is Retaining Talented Servicewomen


https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520344693/militarized-maternity

The Bidenites will probably issue them to "trans" chicks with dicks, too.

No wonder Putin and Xi are laughing.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Just imagine the leftists freaks that would show up these days for the draft. They'd asked their DI for a safe space form the verbal "trauma" of boot camp

So goober did you ever serve?

Was an eye opener for me being around southern slack jaws in boot camp who were brought up with outdoor "plumbing" and thought the food was fine dinning. Those people were shunted of to the fleet after boots as deck crew

 

[Nordberg]

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/245/366/

I think that SCOTUS just called you stupid.

It does not say that on Infowars and Qanon sites.

 

[signalmankenneth]

All this war talk from Pedodent Biden is making WW3 look more and more likely . The draft is clearly banned by the constitution if that matters.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am13.html

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

That's pretty clear cut. But we have had many drafts since the 13A was ratified in 1865. The govt ignores the constitution whenever it pleases.

I would like to see the draft come back, you can't have one segment of society during all the fighting and dying?!! There should not be any exemptions either, as medical or college?!! If you are medically unfit, you should do two years of community service around the country, only military doctors should decide if you are unfit to serve?!! No more bone spurs exemptions!

 

[danielpalos]

All this war talk from Pedodent Biden is making WW3 look more and more likely . The draft is clearly banned by the constitution if that matters.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am13.html

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

That's pretty clear cut. But we have had many drafts since the 13A was ratified in 1865. The govt ignores the constitution whenever it pleases.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems or related costs in our free States. And, fire season is approaching.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

So goober did you ever serve?

Was an eye opener for me being around southern slack jaws in boot camp who were brought up with outdoor "plumbing" and thought the food was fine dinning. Those people were shunted of to the fleet after boots as deck crew

In boot camp I remember having been assigned by the company CO one of the 'tards in the company to tutor. There were several of us given this assignment, one-on-one. I was told my primary task wasn't to get this moron to be able to take the written tests on his own but rather to get him to memorize the answers as best he could then sit next to him during these tests and make sure he answered enough questions correctly to pass the exam. I was further told that the CO knew I (and the others selected) would easily breeze through these tests so we had the time to make sure our 'tard passed too.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I would like to see the draft come back, you can't have one segment of society during all the fighting and dying?!! There should not be any exemptions either, as medical or college?!! If you are medically unfit, you should do two years of community service around the country, only military doctors should decide if you are unfit to serve?!! No more bone spurs exemptions!

You do know that for the US it has been pretty consistent since the Spanish-American war that our drafts have had a 30 to 50% rejection rate of those drafted depending on which part of the country they're from. Large cities and the deep South have the highest rejection rates. Medical issues and being too stupid for the military are the two primary reasons for rejection followed by a criminal record or other legal reasons to be unfit for service.