The 2'nd Amendment ONLY applies to Americans in the military (full-time or reserves)

McRocket said:
Finally?

I do not even begin to care how the SCOTUS or legal 'experts' or ANYONE else has 'interpreted' the 2'nd Amendment.
Or what ANYONE assumed the Founding Fathers meant by it.
Or what ANYONE's, unsupported opinions are on this.
If your reply does not include a link to a respected site to back up your point - I am not going to waste my time reading it.
I am NOT getting into the trillionth, nonsensical, hyperventilating discussion that people have about US gun rights.
:rolleyes:

All I care about here is how the Amendment is written and how it applies to US laws and the English Language.
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Assuming your argument is valid, that has nothing to do with whether a person has the freedom (if not constitutional right) to own an AR-15 or whatever weapon he chooses. Because something is not a constitutional right does not mean it is illegal to own that weapon.

The federal government and states are free to make laws now regulating assault weapons, background checks, etc. Most choose not to pass strict laws but it is not because the Constitution prohibits them from doing so; some states do have stricter regulations.
 
Flash said:
Assuming your argument is valid, that has nothing to do with whether a person has the freedom (if not constitutional right) to own an AR-15 or whatever weapon he chooses. Because something is not a constitutional right does not mean it is illegal to own that weapon.

The federal government and states are free to make laws now regulating assault weapons, background checks, etc. Most choose not to pass strict laws but it is not because the Constitution prohibits them from doing so; some states do have stricter regulations.
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but the constitution does restrict them from doing so.
 
AssHatZombie said:
but the constitution does restrict them from doing so.
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No it doesn't. There are laws requiring background checks, waiting periods, bans and regulations on assault weapons, regulations on carrying weapons.....The laws have become much more liberal in recent years allowing more freedom to possess and carry weapons.
 
Bottom line: laws were passed to keep full military armament from the general population, as such is regulated to military personnel. This does not leave the general population without fire arms....never did. Bitching about not having such access just because you want it is a childish, over-simplification of the issue ... especially when one dismisses the ramifications of such an attitude. That the majority weapon of choice for mass shootings in the last 25 years was formerly on a ban list speaks volumes.
 
Flash said:
No it doesn't. There are laws requiring background checks, waiting periods, bans and regulations on assault weapons, regulations on carrying weapons.....The laws have become much more liberal in recent years allowing more freedom to possess and carry weapons.
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yes it does.

those laws are unconstitutional.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Bottom line: laws were passed to keep full military armament from the general population, as such is regulated to military personnel. This does not leave the general population without fire arms....never did. Bitching about not having such access just because you want it is a childish, over-simplification of the issue ... especially when one dismisses the ramifications of such an attitude. That the majority weapon of choice for mass shootings in the last 25 years was formerly on a ban list speaks volumes.
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gun grabbers fully intend to grab all guns from all civilian citizens.

we must be forever vigilant against the encroachment of totalitarianism.
 
AssHatZombie said:
yes it does.

those laws are unconstitutional.
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Were they ever enacted anyway?
Hell, I walked down through town with a S&W .38 strapped on my side (open carry and unloaded) right past the cops down to the dump to shoot rats when I was 15 lots of times. No one ever said a word. But then, when we were kids, kids didn't shoot kids. We were taught not to.
 
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