...and Care, we need to keep this debate in the realm of science and not religion or religious belief. According to the Bible, we are to respect what God creates, so there is no debate from a religious standpoint, killing innocent human life that God created is morally wrong in God's eyes. If this religious fact is not allowed to stand as a basis for disagreement with abortion, then no religious facts should be considered in the debate. I had just as soon keep it confined to what science tells us, and what we know to be a proven biological fact.
i never said abortion was ''right'' in God's eyes.... i don't think david, and moses and paul's murders were ''right'' in God's eyes either... do you? yet He still chose them to be His messengers and i want you to tell me WHY you think that is....? you can't pick and choose what YOU want the Bible to say is right or wrong without reviewing the bible in full...you are choosing to focus on one issue alone and I don't believe that one can KNOW GOD by doing something like that....He is the one that gave us freewill.
NOW, answer my questions....especially the LAST ONE in my post above....let's here a confession of your sins...and whether YOU are and have repented of them....then, and only then, WE can be on equal ground....discussing this abortion issue....and you might learn a thing or two about our God in the mean time...is my hope, while discussing this topic of abortion.
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i have spoken to someone who LIVED thru the period of back alley abortions, have you ever spoken to anyone that lived thru it? don't tell me it's a copout...when you obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about.
in truth, i don't think it should be legal or illegal....i don't think our government should be involved at all....
with their involvement of making it legal, it makes the average joe think, hmmm... it must be ok if the gvt sanctions it openly....
it SHOULD have been left private, and left alone....with no gvt involvement...then it would have been up to the girl's family, and church to teach her right from wrong....just as it is up to the parents to teach other morals like not having sex until marriage, or not committing adultery etc...
I do think that an unborn child is a human being, but does not have the same worth as a born child....I can't get past that...there are a few spots in the Bible that confirm this also.
the latter, took it's first breath of life....it made it past all the stages of life where it could have died and where many fertilized eggs and embryos do die naturally....none the less, abortion is still terminating ones offspring, one's future child....
what I can say is that there is an absence of Malice towards the unborn child when a woman terminates her pregnancy, at least in the earliest stages of pregnancy because there is no bond yet....malice is never a part of the decision making process, whereas killing her already born child would take malice to do such.....this is why it is not murder imo and it is not murder because one has to be born first before they can be murdered.
And one last thing....we are all sinners...including YOU.... Forgiveness is what Christianity is ALL about...you and others seem to think that abortion is the ONLY SIN IN THE WORLD, while you continue to spit in God's face with your own personal sins, justifying them in your head, as to be "less" of a sin than abortion, therefore you have every right to throw that first stone.
Sometimes, like with Moses, and Paul, and others.... God chooses those that have struggled with sin and with Him to be His chosen people...the ones that do more to bring others to Him...because they have struggled, but overcame the struggle or at least tried to.
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