The actual border bill issues..

BartenderElite said:
Why do people try to make excuses for Trump about this?

It's as stark an example as there is about what we ALL know: Trump cares about Trump. Trump cares ONLY about Trump.

Trump doesn't care about the border. Trump doesn't care about America or Americans.
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Bloviating Kamala talking points makes you look like an ignorant moron.

When Trump was in charge, the border was safe and secure. After Biden and Kamala reversed every Trump policy, it became a disaster.'

I am amused when halfwits like you buy into Kamala's lie filled bullshit acting like she wasn't in charge for the last four years and now, if elected, she's going to really do something about it. What degree of stupid does it take to buy that bullshit? That was rhetorical.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Trumpanzees are desperately trying to preserve a white majority America
that sociologists acknowledge is on its deathbed and almost gone already.

And, they want to make it an isolationist white America to boot.

I acknowledge that things in my life that I truly enjoyed are gone forever.
I acknowledge that I'm living in somebody else's world now.
Things that existed in the past that were a basic part of my life are never coming back.
I myself won't still be here that much longer.
That doesn't bother me a bit.

I, you see, am a realist with an adequate level of cognitive ability and intelligence.
Trumpanzees are devolved mutants who think they can wish the historic world that they want into a second manifestation.
Further, in a totally futile effort to get
what they can never have again,
they're willing to perpetrate despicable transgressions
which will not advance their futile goals.

Trumpanzees, in fact, are essentially zombies.
They cannot live in the current world that already exists
so in that respect, they're essentially living dead.

It makes no sense to treat them as anything else.
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Truth Detector said:
In addition, $74 billion of the $118 billion went to Ukraine and Israel. $60 billion to Ukraine. Not sure what that has to do with our border security. So only 38% of the spending went to border protection. Or $44 billion.

All this bill would have done is legalized the massive number of illegals and fast tracked them into the country instead of the current catch and release.

Democrats who voted against the bill:
  1. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
  2. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts
  3. Senator Alex Padilla of California
  4. Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey
  5. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York
So when Kamala lies that Trump picked up a phone and called Senators to kill the bill, she was lying once again. Every time Kamala's gums are flapping, she's lying. She's not merely incompetent and brainless, but a serial liar.
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I've looked... and I can't find any time that she's actually told the truth....
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Really?

Democrats who voted against the bill:
  1. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
  2. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts
  3. Senator Alex Padilla of California
  4. Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey
  5. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York
So when Kamala lies that Trump picked up a phone and called Senators to kill the bill, she was lying once again. Every time Kamala's gums are flapping, she's lying. She's not merely incompetent and brainless, but a serial liar.
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Pesky details... She is a serial liar...
 
Dutch Uncle said:
This problem was around during Reagan's time, GHW Bush's, Clinton's, GW Bush's, Obama's, Trump's and now Biden's.
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Moronic. Biden has created the largest mass of human carnage at our Southern border than any President in our history you brainless asshat.

What's with all the stupid lies?

Dutch Uncle said:
Why is all the blame being laid on Biden instead of on Congress where it belongs?
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Because he's the one IGNORING our immigration laws and allowing the human disaster to occur you fucking moron. DUH!!

Dutch Uncle said:
Our nation has needed immigration reform for decades now yet nothing is being done.
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Our nation doesn't need immigration reform you mental case. It needs immigration enforcement.

I'll tell you what, go through the entire Immigration law and show us what parts are not working and need reform.

You fucking witless dunce.

Dutch Uncle said:
The only conclusion I can arrive at is that TPTB like the status quo and the politicians like it as a political football to kick around each election.
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The only conclusion anyone reading your moronic tripe is that you have severe mental issues or are just a dishonesty lying dumbass with the IQ of a lemming.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Because they don't want to solve the problem. They only want to weaponize the problem as Trump did by ordering the bill killed.
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Parroting Kamala's lies makes you look like a mentally challenged dumbass. :palm:

So, Trump called Democrats and told them to vote no? Jackass. :palm:

Democrats who voted no along with Republicans:

  1. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
  2. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts
  3. Senator Alex Padilla of California
  4. Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey
  5. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York

Grow a fucking brain.
 
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archives said:
None, the MAGAster said the bill allowed 5,000 a day and he is wrong, when 5,000 crossed the border froze until those individuals could be processed, so 5,000 do not cross everyday, he was wrong, not his fault, he just swallowed the bullshit Maralago invented for his media to echo
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MORON LIAR ALERT!!! Learn how to read shit-for-brains. :palm:

The bill stated that temporary border emergency authority would be automatically activated by the Department of Homeland Security secretary if there is an average of 5,000 or more migrant encounters a day over seven consecutive days — or if there are 8,500 or more such encounters on any single day. In December — according to the latest data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection — there was an average of more than 8,000 encounters a day of migrants who crossed the border illegally between points of entry.
The legislation crucially links the foreign money to immigration policy in a bid to ensure enough Republican support for it to pass through the divided Congress.



 
archives said:
Correct, the two times the Congress came close with bipartisan agreement the GOP killed it for political reasons
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Bullshit.

Democrats who voted no along with Republicans:

  1. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
  2. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts
  3. Senator Alex Padilla of California
  4. Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey
  5. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York
Why didn't Schumer take up the Immigration Bill passed by the House halfwit?

H.R.2 - Secure the Border Act of 2023​

 
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Tbird19482 said:
I guess the people in the border Patrol must be pretty stupid, IF they needed to talk to her there was this thing invented over 100 years ago called the Telephone.
Millions of people have had them and have been using them for about 100 years now.
Maybe if they are that backwards that is why the border is breaking down.
Maybe Congress should look into it and get them some damn phones.
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I guess Kamala must have been missing in action for the last four years and chose to do nothing until she was anointed the Democratic Presidential candidate.

Moron. :palm:
 
Taichiliberal said:
The MAGA/Alt-Right/Fibbertarian/Neocon/Teabagger crowd just can't stand the fact that Cheeto Jeezus is laying bare the true face and agenda of the GOP since Reagan.
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This is a sign of mental retardation. Good lord, see a shrink you sad caricature of ignorance and stupidity. :palm:
 
Taichiliberal said:
And here's why the GOP HR2 Border Bill was voted against by Democrats (and some GOP)

immigrationforum.org

Bill Analysis: The Secure the Border Act of 2023

This bill analysis includes key takeaways from the Secure the Border Act of 2023.
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Here's what the GOP voted against:

www.cnn.com/2024/05/23/politics/senate-border-bill-vote/index.html
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Here's the Democrats who voted against it. Did Trump call them? Moron.

  1. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
  2. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts
  3. Senator Alex Padilla of California
  4. Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey
  5. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York
 
Dutch Uncle said:
....because Pedo Don ordered it killed. That's all history, ExLa.
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So Trump called these Democrats and they agreed? Moron.

  1. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
  2. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts
  3. Senator Alex Padilla of California
  4. Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey
  5. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The Republicans were for the bill before they were against it, Terry. It was a stepping stone. Anyone who thinks a bill is perfect is an idiot.

Now, thanks to Trump and his MAGAts, what do We, the People, have to show for it? Nada. Zip. Nothing. The old status quo....which, IMO, is exactly what those mega-rich business owners and political donors want; a quasi-indentured servant worker base to help keep wages down and profits up.

MAGAts, whether they are smart enough to see this or not, are supporting suppressing their own wages by being against immigration reform.
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BULLSHIT ALERT!!!! If Dutch is emoting, he's probably lying and looking like a mental case. :laugh:

Only the dumbest among us believe that our immigration laws are to blame for the human disaster Biden/Harris created.

Only mental cases buy into the claim that Harris, after four years of doing nothing, suddenly cares....but only if you elect her. :laugh:
 
Stone said:
With something so urgent as immigration why cant we for once pass a CLEAN bill? Why! It's a forking immigration bill,....why should funding for Ukraine and Israel, and any number of other things be included in the bill? Sooooooooooooo fed up with Washingtons bullshit and the way things work. If anyone was ACTUALLY truly serious about addressing immigration they would offer up a CLEAN bill,....but they dont and in my estimation never will. Corrupt to the core. It's who they are.... :mad:
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Why do we need another Immigration bill?

I am still waiting for someone to show me what was wrong with the current legislation preventing enforcement. Anyone?
 
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